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Old 08-16-2016, 03:50 PM   #11
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Hello fellow travelers. I just got a new vehicle and would like to know what I can safely pull. I have been through the threads, have been to calculation sites but I must admit I find it all a bit confusing as I don't have all the information I need to plug into the calculators.

My new tow vehicle- 2016 Silverado 1500 5.3L Z71 (HD Suspension) with tow package, tranny cooler, weight distribution hitch (Trunnion)

First question : What is Maximum Conventional Towing Weight from my manual? I surmise that includes 1: dry weight of trailer. 2: weight of water. 3: weight of all camping equipment packed in truck and trailer. (approximately 500 lb) 4: Weight of passengers (~ 600 lb.)
5: Weight of fuel in the truck. 21.6 Gallons (what does that weigh?)

Second Question : Regarding tongue weight - (10-15% of total loaded trailer weight up to 1200 lb.) I surmise that this is a matter of how I distribute the weight of my load.

These are the specs that I know.

Max Conventional Towing 9,100 lb.
GVWR 7,200 lb.
GCWR 9,200 lb.
Max loaded trailer weight 9,200 lb.
Max tongue weight 10-15% of total loaded trailer weight up to 1,200 lb.
Max Payload 1730 lb.
Fuel 21.6 GAL (how much does that weigh?)
GVW - unknown
Rear gross axle weight -unknown
Front axle weight - unknown

I guess bottom line is what can I safely tow? Any thoughts or recommendations are welcome

Thanks in advance to all who reply. I realize that this community is awesome in it's commitment to helping fellow travelers.

Happy Trails to you all

Norm & Family in Ontario
I have a 2015 Silverado with the 5.3 and I have no problem towing my 7000# trailer empty weight. With a good 4 point hitch stabilizer you shouldn't have any issue with towing a trailer like mine. Power and torque is plentiful from the 355hp 5.3.
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Old 08-16-2016, 04:53 PM   #12
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Note that Nammy claims that the new ride has both the Z71 and tow package. The tow package is a significant upgrade.

We have a 2013 Silverado 1500 with a 5.3 and tow package, but it is not a Z71. We tow a 7500 lb. tandem axle cargo trailer with electric brakes pretty well and also tow a 19' boat on a single axle trailer with surge brakes. We find that the tandem axle trailer gives an overall smoother tow. We have added Firestone Ride Rite airbags for stability. We do not need a WDH for our purposes.
I did note that!

If he has a LT Z71 or a LTZ Z71, it comes automatically with the external trans and engine oil coolers, as well as the hitch, seven and four pin connectors (technically no tow package available it is part of the model package options), but the integrated brake controller is still an extra item.

Z71 off-road package also comes with a 3.42 rear end.
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Old 08-16-2016, 05:12 PM   #13
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What you really need to know is the rear axle ratio. I had one from the factory 3.08 and 6400lb towing,you loose towing capacity. You should have at least 3.42, or 3.73 Find you GM RPO Axle Codes in the glove box.
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The attached may help you with RPO codes. I started with the June 2016 list (pretty new, right?) but had codes left over. Did some internet searching and came up with others. Look in your glove box and you'll find the codes on a sticker, set up like the table I show on the last page. The RPOs that apply to me are in red in the list. There are 4 RPOs that I couldn't find.
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Old 08-16-2016, 06:00 PM   #14
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Hello fellow travelers. I just got a new vehicle and would like to know what I can safely pull. I have been through the threads, have been to calculation sites but I must admit I find it all a bit confusing as I don't have all the information I need to plug into the calculators.

My new tow vehicle- 2016 Silverado 1500 5.3L Z71 (HD Suspension) with tow package, tranny cooler, weight distribution hitch (Trunnion)

First question : What is Maximum Conventional Towing Weight from my manual? I surmise that includes 1: dry weight of trailer. 2: weight of water. 3: weight of all camping equipment packed in truck and trailer. (approximately 500 lb) 4: Weight of passengers (~ 600 lb.)
5: Weight of fuel in the truck. 21.6 Gallons (what does that weigh?)

Second Question : Regarding tongue weight - (10-15% of total loaded trailer weight up to 1200 lb.) I surmise that this is a matter of how I distribute the weight of my load.

These are the specs that I know.

Max Conventional Towing 9,100 lb.
GVWR 7,200 lb.
GCWR 9,200 lb.
Max loaded trailer weight 9,200 lb.
Max tongue weight 10-15% of total loaded trailer weight up to 1,200 lb.
Max Payload 1730 lb.
Fuel 21.6 GAL (how much does that weigh?)
GVW - unknown
Rear gross axle weight -unknown
Front axle weight - unknown

I guess bottom line is what can I safely tow? Any thoughts or recommendations are welcome

Thanks in advance to all who reply. I realize that this community is awesome in it's commitment to helping fellow travelers.

Happy Trails to you all

Norm & Family in Ontario


If your payload is 1730.................and your passengers weight 600 and you think camping equipment will be 500 this leaves you a total of 630 TW, which would be a small trailer in the range of 4000 to 4500.


Payload will always be the limiting factor, if your looking for a bigger trailer then 4000-4500 you will need a truck with a lot more payload!!!!!
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From the RVSEF (RV Safety and Education Foundation) been weighing RV since 1993.

Safety is critical when towing an RV Trailer. This training video discusses the importance of understanding a Truck's ratings and how these ratings limit the size of the trailer that can be safely towed. You will be provided the tools and basic understanding needed to assist your endeavor to properly match a truck and trailer, so that you can enjoy RVing safely.

Matching your truck to your trailer instructional video.
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Thank you all for your considered responses. I have been looking for a layman's (i.e. dummies) answer to my situation. The best I have come up with so far is this equation.

Tow Vehicle GCWR (9,200 lbs.) minus Tow Vehicle GVW (vehicle + gas + passengers + cargo in bed + hitch) = 1568 Max. (unknown, have to go to a scale) = Maximum GVWR of Trailer. (still looking for a trailer)

Does this seem like a reasonable equation?
GVW of Truck Cargo and occupants 1568 lbs. Max.

While I appreciate anecdotal accounts of people's towing experience, I am looking to crunch some hard #'s for my own situation.
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Old 08-16-2016, 07:24 PM   #17
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Nanny

Check out this site has lot good info and seems to be close to real world numbers - at least as close as stubby pencil can get. The best part it is easy to use not like lot of the other sites.

Towing Planner - towing capability calculators
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Old 08-16-2016, 07:31 PM   #18
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Thank you all for your considered responses. I have been looking for a layman's (i.e. dummies) answer to my situation. The best I have come up with so far is this equation.

Tow Vehicle GCWR (9,200 lbs.) minus Tow Vehicle GVW (vehicle + gas + passengers + cargo in bed + hitch) = 1568 Max. (unknown, have to go to a scale) = Maximum GVWR of Trailer. (still looking for a trailer)

Does this seem like a reasonable equation?
GVW of Truck Cargo and occupants 1568 lbs. Max.

While I appreciate anecdotal accounts of people's towing experience, I am looking to crunch some hard #'s for my own situation.
Payload; more so than the weight of the trailer will be the limiting factor. Look at what TT233S has shown with some figures.
Even if the tongue weight of the trailer is under the 630lbs shown in his post, it will go up if you add batteries, full tank (or tanks) of propane, plus what you put into the trailer.
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Nanny

Check out this site has lot good info and seems to be close to real world numbers - at least as close as stubby pencil can get. The best part it is easy to use not like lot of the other sites.

Towing Planner - towing capability calculators
I just put the number you gave into the payload part of this link and what I posted came out...............4000-4500 trailers is what you should be looking for!!!!!
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Your GCWR = 9,200 lb statement is wrong.


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