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Old 06-27-2012, 06:06 PM   #11
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Down here in SE Texas we all drive pickups and the Ram 2500 with the gas will pull a small 5er, but the men that I know with Rams/Dodges with gas are always complaining about MPG. Not just when pulling trailers but all of the time. They are somewhat cheaper then Fords and less then Cheys. Most of the men with Rams/Dodges with 3/4 tons have the Cummings diesels and they seem to love them. They still don't use the exhast fluid yet, 2013 I am told, but they are made in Mexico.
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We have a Ram Longhorm 2500 3/4 ton with the Cummons 6.7L and we love it. I didn't know that the DEF would be manatory in 2013 - glad we didn't wait. Right now it is only required in the chassis cab version.
You are right about being made in Mexico.
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Old 06-27-2012, 07:21 PM   #12
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Just upgraded the tow vehicle from a 2010 F-150 with a 4.6l to a Dodge Ram 2500 Crew Cab long bed with a 5.7 HEMI. My fifth Wheel is a Salem Hemishpere Lite (7400lbs) 1030 pin weight. I am hoping this pulls better than the F-150! Any thoughts on the HEMI? I wanted the Cummins, but wa a little out of my price range.

thanks for the input!
Congratulations!!! Be sure and post pics.

May I assume this is a 2012 Ram? If so, the new 66RFE six-speed should make that a very nice tow vehicle. The 5.7L Hemi is a great engine, but its towing performance has always been hindered by the poor gear spacing of the 545RFE 5-speed. Did you get it with a 3.73 or 4.10 axle ratio? 4X2 or 4X4?
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:05 PM   #13
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Down here in SE Texas we all drive pickups and the Ram 2500 with the gas will pull a small 5er, but the men that I know with Rams/Dodges with gas are always complaining about MPG. Not just when pulling trailers but all of the time. They are somewhat cheaper then Fords and less then Cheys. Most of the men with Rams/Dodges with 3/4 tons have the Cummings diesels and they seem to love them. They still don't use the exhast fluid yet, 2013 I am told, but they are made in Mexico.
You might be interested to know that the chassis is what limits the 2500, not the engine. Since the Hemi is 900lbs lighter option than the Cummins, it has 140lbs more payload capacity and the 4.10's on the hemi match the max trailer cap of the 3.73 geared Cummins (the 4.10 Cummins eeks out another 1100 max trailer, but with less payload that won't matter much for a 5'er since you are at the Hemi's 2460 payload with a max tow capacity 13.5k FW at even 18% pin).

Actual towing experience is still better with the double-the-torque oil burner, and fuel mileage will probably be better, but the Hemi 2500 ultimately has the advantage for the payload for a 5'er.

Edit: the numbers were based on a 4WD QCSB SLT
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Old 06-28-2012, 12:05 AM   #14
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The Hemi engine weighs about half the 6.7 CUMMINS engine (side note for some there is no "G" in Cummins). It is about 500lbs lighter than the Cummins maybe the transmissions add to that 900lb total figure posted above. I have also read the lone difference between a 3500 and 2500 CTD Ram is the addition of helper springs in the 3500 and nothing more. The 2500 gas motor comes with the smaller 10.5" rear (vs the 11.5" in the CTD's).
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EdJunior, I was trying to sent you a private message, but forgot how! I read you post regarding you trip to Canyon Lake some time back and got a Ford like yours
because of your post. Thanks I live five miles west of Hwy 59 off Huff Road. I have 20A and a few cows. nice to meet you so to speak.
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