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Old 12-12-2011, 10:03 AM   #91
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LFugate.. From what i can figure... IF. you want a Supercrew model..say an XLT... you can get MAX PAYLOAD with a 6.5 foot box.. But a supercab would require a 8 ft box.. But dont confuse MAX PAYLOAD with MAX TOW PKG. they are 2 diffrent things.. IF I would order a 2012 F150. It would probably be a 2012 Super crew XLT, 3.5 Ecoboost, 3.73 limited slip, MAX PAYLOAD and MAX TOW PKG, 6.5 ft box . Hope this helps
Thanks for the explanantion. I'll stop by Ford one day and pickup (pun intended) a brochure.

I would order the same truck, but I really would prefer a shorter bed. I'll probably still going to hold off and see what 2013 brings. I have no big/long towing trips planned, so no rush right now.
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Old 12-12-2011, 10:06 AM   #92
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Yes, I don't get that. I think it may be because this is mostly a commercial market offering and that commercial vehicles will have the long bed. But that doesn't explain the SuperCrew offering . . . Yeah, I've been scratching my head about that one too. But SuperCrew's may be used by some commercial too; like railroads, etc.

I actually did a chat session with Ford about the increase in payload capacity in the Max Tow. If you compare regular towing package to max tow, the only extra things it mentions are different mirrors and upgraded bumper (which really means an upgraded hitch). So I asked why payload went up 500 pounds for no apparent reason. Turns out that there are suspension upgrades with the Max Tow that aren't spelled out anywhere. As near as I can determine, things like upgraded front suspension bushings, heavier rear springs, higher capacity rear axle. But those changes are not as significant as the changes with HD Payload; bigger ring gear, 7 lugs wheels, etc.
So those enhancements aren't listed in the brochure? Another case of what the heck is Ford thinking
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Thanks for the explanantion. I'll stop by Ford one day and pickup (pun intended) a brochure.

I would order the same truck, but I really would prefer a shorter bed. I'll probably still going to hold off and see what 2013 brings. I have no big/long towing trips planned, so no rush right now.
LFugate.. I Only hope.. that Ford can continue with the 2013 models and beyond to keep.. #1... the towing ..and #2 The payload ratings up .. while.. getting even better gas mileage.. Our government wants these trucks to improve in the mpgs a lot in the future.. and hope the companys.. dont have to sacrifice what we NEED in a tow vehicle...
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Old 12-12-2011, 12:14 PM   #95
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So those enhancements aren't listed in the brochure? Another case of what the heck is Ford thinking
Well, yeah! These are important details to those of us trying to understand what we would be getting and whether it is something we want. Why wouldn't you list suspension upgrades? Or at least refer to upgrades if the details are deemed too technical. In my mind, these details should be there. It makes sense that an increased tow load is going to put more pressure on the front end with the WDH. So, those upgraded front end bushings are important. I would think it would help sell those packages. And an upgraded rear bumper? NO, it is an upgraded hitch; big difference. It is kind of "dumbed down" information IMO. I've seen pictures posted on F150 Forum which show the difference in the hitch between regular and max tow. Substantial differences.

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The max tow is due in part to the extra leaf spring, the heavier rear gearing and the HD shock set up on the vehicle, as well as heavier suspension parts on the front.
But with that set up you loose some of your fuel economy through the different gearing.
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The max tow is due in part to the extra leaf spring, the heavier rear gearing and the HD shock set up on the vehicle, as well as heavier suspension parts on the front.
But with that set up you loose some of your fuel economy through the different gearing.
Yes, and probably a little bit of your "ride" too . . . but my truck still rides better than my car! . . .
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well i smashed up my 07.. guy turned left infront of me oncoming... so tomorrow i find out my payout if its a write off.. might get that eco boost sooner then i though..
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well i smashed up my 07.. guy turned left infront of me oncoming... so tomorrow i find out my payout if its a write off.. might get that eco boost sooner then i though..
Yikes! Well, that is ONE way of forcing the issue! Hope you are OK. That is the main thing. Machinery can be replaced.
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pic aint that great but over $6000 damage... still other then getting burned by the airbag, im glad that the F150 is a SAFE Truck!!

so far no luck finding a new reg cab xl long box with the eco boost... found a '11 4x4 for 25k with a normal v-6 but it seems the eco boosts are going into super cabs and crew cabs...

Also the 4 door regular cab is discontinued after 2008.. "access doors" they were called

anyone here have just a regular cab with the eco boost?
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