New Tow Vehicle - Ecoboost!

[acadianbob]

I think 10 to 12 mpg pulling a significant travel trailer is AWESOME mileage. Maybe not in diesel territory under load but great nevertheless. One of the reasons that the Ecoboost gets knocked on towing mileage, IMO, is that people wind up using that power, sometimes unknowingly, and that takes gas. Hills where the 5.4 would drag down, the Ecoboost blasts right up. That takes fuel. My bet is that, driven exactly at the same speeds and accelerations, the Ecoboost mileage is just fine. Can't wait to get one.

[acadianbob]

Originally Posted by LFugate

I heard the 2013 will be the redesign so I'll probably wait until late next year to start looking at them seriously.

It's hard to know what re-design means; and opinions vary. I would expect some styling changes soon. But the next major re-design may be 2015/16 I have read. (Who knows!) Apparently it was going to be sooner but the new mileage regulations are causing some re-thinking; and therefore some delays from the original plan. Reportedly, there will be a significant weight reduction, an 8 speed auto, and a GenII Ecoboost. The truck desparately needs to lose some weight. GenII is supposed to get another 5% better on fuel and further torque increases. I have been waiting a bit too to see what plans were at Ford. But I think I'm going to take the plunge this winter. I would really like the more relaxed towing for our 3,000 mile trips.

[LFugate]

Originally Posted by acadianbob

It's hard to know what re-design means; and opinions vary. I would expect some styling changes soon. But the next major re-design may be 2015/16 I have read. (Who knows!) Apparently it was going to be sooner but the new mileage regulations are causing some re-thinking; and therefore some delays from the original plan. Reportedly, there will be a significant weight reduction, an 8 speed auto, and a GenII Ecoboost. The truck desparately needs to lose some weight. GenII is supposed to get another 5% better on fuel and further torque increases. I have been waiting a bit too to see what plans were at Ford. But I think I'm going to take the plunge this winter. I would really like the more relaxed towing for our 3,000 mile trips.

I have seen the 2015 prediction also, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed The F150's are really heavy for a 1/2 ton, they could certainly go on a diet. An 8 speed auto would be in an Ecoboost, can't wait. So you going to get a 2011 at discount or a 2012?

[dretired]

What is the Max towing capability of you eco boost ?? supposedly its 11,300lb in the right con figuration. And did you get the max payload pkg ??

[acadianbob]

Going to order a 2012. Nothing on the lots is even close to what I want.

[buzzmonster]

What is the Max towing capability of you eco boost ?? supposedly its 11,300lb in the right con figuration. And did you get the max payload pkg ??

I have got the max tow so yes 11,300lb with the 3.73 rear end upgraded GVWR (max payload) and 4x4. So the fuel consumption numbers are impacted by both the 3.73 and the 4x4. When you do the math with 4 adults, 2 kids, a bed full of bikes firewood and other stuff plus a tongue weight of 650lb you will be surprized how quickly it all adds up. It certainly pulls the 21RS sooooo much better than the pathfinder that we used to use.

We got the max tow and the max payload, just in case (or when) we want to upgrade the TT. We also got the rear view camera, which I must say is just great for hitching up, it has gone from a two person job to a quick and easy 1 person job.

[teamgl]

Originally Posted by buzzmonster

We also got the rear view camera, which I must say is just great for hitching up, it has gone from a two person job to a quick and easy 1 person job.

That is good to hear - we have the backup camera also. It was one of those 'bells and whistles' that sold the DW on the new truck.

[dretired]

Originally Posted by buzzmonster

I have got the max tow so yes 11,300lb with the 3.73 rear end upgraded GVWR (max payload) and 4x4. So the fuel consumption numbers are impacted by both the 3.73 and the 4x4. When you do the math with 4 adults, 2 kids, a bed full of bikes firewood and other stuff plus a tongue weight of 650lb you will be surprized how quickly it all adds up. It certainly pulls the 21RS sooooo much better than the pathfinder that we used to use.

We got the max tow and the max payload, just in case (or when) we want to upgrade the TT. We also got the rear view camera, which I must say is just great for hitching up, it has gone from a two person job to a quick and easy 1 person job.

I am having a tough time deciding on a F150 eco boost, max towing pkg, max payload pkg, electronic locking rear axel, 4x4, a super cab with a 6 1/2 ft box would be my preference ( its the 2 of us with a small dog ) Or a F250 XLT super cab ,4x4, 6.2 liter gas engine, 3.73 electronic locking axel, the F 250 should have 12,500 max towing with about 3,000 lb payload... max payload for my 7,700 lb dry weight 5th wheel...Amazing... they are both close in price for me..It may come down to fuel economey when i am NOT towing that wins !!

[LFugate]

Originally Posted by dretired

I am having a tough time deciding on a F150 eco boost, max towing pkg, max payload pkg, electronic locking rear axel, 4x4, a super cab with a 6 1/2 ft box would be my preference ( its the 2 of us with a small dog ) Or a F250 XLT super cab ,4x4, 6.2 liter gas engine, 3.73 electronic locking axel, the F 250 should have 12,500 max towing with about 3,000 lb payload... max payload for my 7,700 lb dry weight 5th wheel...Amazing... they are both close in price for me..It may come down to fuel economey when i am NOT towing that wins !!

If you get the F150 I would get the limited slip. I've read the electric locker can only be used when in 4X4. Personally, I don't want to have to put it in 4X4 for the rear axle not to slip.

Tough choice between those 2 vehicles. I'd list my thoughts on the 2, I just don't want to turn this into a diesel VS gas thread.

[dretired]

Originally Posted by LFugate

If you get the F150 I would get the limited slip. I've read the electric locker can only be used when in 4X4. Personally, I don't want to have to put it in 4X4 for the rear axle not to slip.

Tough choice between those 2 vehicles. I'd list my thoughts on the 2, I just don't want to turn this into a diesel VS gas thread.

Good point !! If a 3.73 limited slip rear axel would work ...?? It would then be possible to get away with a 4x2 saving like $3,000..but.. hard to sell in this area when its time to get a replacement. And No i wouldnt want the diesel . With the 6.2 gas engine it can burn E 85 when Not towing, and save a little on fuel costs.. And .. could they( Ford) ever come out with a 6.2 Eco Boost ??