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Old 09-25-2014, 11:31 AM   #31
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I'm not trying to step on toes. I'm simply pointing out that your experience with your Ecoboost is WAY outside the norm of what's being reported. And, if you continue to get the mileage you currently report with your 3/4 ton hemi, you are getting WAY better mileage than the vast majority of other owners report with that combo. Your posts indicate to me that your run in with Ford is causing you to want to overly praise the new Dodge just to kind of stick it to Ford. I don't know the story on your EB or the problems you had. But when you give reports for the EB and the Hemi that are WAY outside of the norm, it seems as though you have a little beef and/or agenda. Sorry if I don't take what someone says on an internet forum as the "truth, whole truth, and nothing but the truth."
Yes, I absolutely had a run in with Ford, worst auto company I have ever dealt with. The Eco Boost was great to tow with for a while, though I would not say that I could climb hills AND maintain speed in the 2k-2.5k RPM range. I could climb it at 2,200 RPM but I would not maintain speed, it would absolutely slow down. If I wanted to maintain speed I was at or above 3k RPM's.

I don't expect that I will continue to get 16 MPG in my Ram (which by the way is now at 15.8 MPG according to the lie-o-meter). The 13.8 on my EB did not include towing MPG (which were right around 9.8/9.9 average over 7k miles - I never could break the 10 MPG average towing).

Here is where you and I disagree - In my experience the EcoBoost cannot do everything Ford claims it can do and last. 28k miles and having cracks in the aluminum heads is simply not reliable. Ford reasoning for it? Not trailer weight, not tongue weight, it was "wind resistance". So yes, I am probably overly critical of Ford and the EB but is based solely on my experience with it.
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Old 09-25-2014, 11:38 AM   #32
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Yes, I absolutely had a run in with Ford, worst auto company I have ever dealt with. The Eco Boost was great to tow with for a while, though I would not say that I could climb hills AND maintain speed in the 2k-2.5k RPM range. I could climb it at 2,200 RPM but I would not maintain speed, it would absolutely slow down. If I wanted to maintain speed I was at or above 3k RPM's.

I don't expect that I will continue to get 16 MPG in my Ram (which by the way is now at 15.8 MPG according to the lie-o-meter). The 13.8 on my EB did not include towing MPG (which were right around 9.8/9.9 average over 7k miles - I never could break the 10 MPG average towing).

Here is where you and I disagree - In my experience the EcoBoost cannot do everything Ford claims it can do and last. 28k miles and having cracks in the aluminum heads is simply not reliable. Ford reasoning for it? Not trailer weight, not tongue weight, it was "wind resistance". So yes, I am probably overly critical of Ford and the EB but is based solely on my experience with it.
I have a good friend that had MAJOR issues with getting Ford to cover warranty work on a 6.0PSD he had, so I know that it can happen. Haven't heard of any other issues with heads on the EB, but I'll dig around and see if any others have had that issue. What gears did you have in the EB and what speed were you trying to maintain? I have 3.55's and I run around 21 or 2200 in 5th at 65 and 2800 or so when it drops to 4th. Never had to catch 3rd to pull a hill, which would be the only way I'd go over 3K.
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Old 09-25-2014, 11:41 AM   #33
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I have a good friend that had MAJOR issues with getting Ford to cover warranty work on a 6.0PSD he had, so I know that it can happen. Haven't heard of any other issues with heads on the EB, but I'll dig around and see if any others have had that issue. What gears did you have in the EB and what speed were you trying to maintain? I have 3.55's and I run around 21 or 2200 in 5th at 65 and 2800 or so when it drops to 4th. Never had to catch 3rd to pull a hill, which would be the only way I'd go over 3K.
It was the Max Tow so 3.73's. Hills I would try to maintain 50-55, never went over 60 towing with it. Maybe if I would have kept it at 50-55 on flat lands I would have broke 10 MPG towing
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I have the 3.55 and do most of my driving at highway speed, and that gets me 22mpg in the summer and 19.5mpg in the winter (typically)

Around town it is more like 16 in the summer and 12 in the winter

When towing I just put it in tow/haul and never go over 62-63 if possible. Ford says you can shut off the tow/haul on flat terrain to increase mileage but I just feel more comfortable in tow/haul rather than trying to remember to switch it if I get to a hill. If I am towing on mostly flat terrain that is where I see the 12 mpg but that is best case scenario. Last month I towed from MD to NH and back and it was 10.5mpg towing (about 1000 miles round trip). Not sure how that stacks up with other EB owners
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Old 09-25-2014, 01:03 PM   #35
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I bought a Ford stx with the 5.0 and 3.55 rear. The STX was not available with ecoboost. I would have had to move up to the xlt or FX2 to get it and I did not feel it was worth the extra $8,000.00 I haven't been out of Florida with it, so the tallest grade I have pulled over was a dead possum.

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Old 09-25-2014, 01:11 PM   #36
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the tallest grade I have pulled over was a dead possum.
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Throwing out mpg numbers when towing is not a very good barometer. Unless someone tows the same roads with the same truck/trailer combination then it really meaningless. A guy towing a 7500lb TT in Co isn't going to get the same mpg as the guy towing 5500lbs in Fl.
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Throwing out mpg numbers when towing is not a very good barometer. Unless someone tows the same roads with the same truck/trailer combination then it really meaningless. A guy towing a 7500lb TT in Co isn't going to get the same mpg as the guy towing 5500lbs in Fl.
Yep. And the guy that likes to get his truck and trailer to 65 ASAP will get much worse than the guy easing into it and running 55. I think most people have a REALLY hard time driving how they normally do when checking mileage, too.
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