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Old 06-12-2013, 03:05 PM   #1
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newbie needs tow advice

Hello newbie to this site. We're looking to upgrade from our hybrid. It has water damage and with 5 kids don't have the time to try and repair. We're looking at the grey Wolf's and found a 26 dbh that's OK but love the 29 dsfb. Towing with 2007 Tahoe rated 7700 lbs. Yellow sticker on TT I think is around 7200-7300. Dry is 6683. We generally camp within 25 minute drive from our house in Ohio so no major towing. Dealer agrees it is doable but pushing it. I've seen a couple posts on here with someone with same set up. 5 kids but generally only 3 younger go with us under 200 lbs for them. Not a heavy packer either no real extras no bikes grills. No water filled. Food shop when we get to spot. Really only add basic pots pans blankets clothes and a few board games. Doable????
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Old 06-12-2013, 03:22 PM   #2
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Just even glancing at your numbers I can say your in trouble with that combo.

The numbers you really need are.

Cargo carrying capacity of tahoe
Rawr of tahoe
Tounge weight of tt

The dry weight means "nothing"
As that's the weight of trailer as it leaves factory.
From there dealer adds items such as propane and tanks , battery and other things.

Plus you add everything to go camping.

plus 5 kids and you and spouse fire wood coolers bikes etc etc .
That dry weight will defiantly exceed more than 1000 lbs with a family your size.

Bigger truck or smaller camper.

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Old 06-12-2013, 03:29 PM   #3
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Yeah you will probably have several problems. Somebody will chime in the formula but I suspect with 5 kids even if you are within the towing capacity of your vehicle you will likely exceed the gross combined weight rating (GCWR).

That value will be in your vehicle's owners manual.

Here's a decent write up and explanation on what you need to consider:

Jayco/Trailer Life Tow Guide
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Btw your ccc can be found on your door jamb or door on truck.

Normally listed with tire info.
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Old 06-12-2013, 03:39 PM   #5
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that is an awful long trailer for a short wheelbase Tahoe. Having owned a Tahoe in the past, I recall that the trailer tow number was pure fantasy. I was out of CCC before I hooked up a trailer.
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Old 06-12-2013, 03:46 PM   #6
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that is an awful long trailer for a short wheelbase Tahoe. Having owned a Tahoe in the past, I recall that the trailer tow number was pure fantasy. I was out of CCC before I hooked up a trailer.
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My sister is in the exact same situation as you. She owns a minivan, boyfriend owns an older (and a bit beat up) Dodge 1500 and combined, they have 5 kids from 9-17 AND a pitbull/mastiff/mutt of a dog (he's a big boy).

IMO, with passengers alone in either vehicle- they were going to be at their maximum carrying capacity long before they added the camper. She figured their best bet was a seasonal site; second best was actually storing the camper at the RV park and then the only time it's towed is from the storage lot on-site to their actual campsite.

My in-laws want to get into RVing and would like their own space vs. staying with us. So as we shopped the RV shows, so did they. My FIL and I talked a lot about dry weights, yellow sticker weights (I literally looked at almost every yellow sticker) and actual loaded weights. First, good for you for looking at the yellow sticker vs. the dry weight. As you found, it's already a fair amount higher than the advertised dry weight.

His question, for me, was that he already had a vehicle and uses it as a traveling trainer for work. He didn't want to upgrade so he asked, "What is the biggest trailer I can tow?" (implying that he wanted to stay within ratings and not just hookup anything and go) Doing the math, his 4Runner only had about 950 pounds of carrying capacity. In order for him to tow the full advertised weight of 7,000 pounds - he had to:
a) lose about 70 pounds
and b) put nothing else in the SUV with him (including my dear mother-in-law!)

The problem is, that 950 pounds is quickly diminished down to what's leftover for tongue weight. Tongue weight is typically 10%-15% of a trailers actual loaded weight.

I wrote some emails to him and published them on my blog:
What can I tow? My FIL's actual example
and
What can I tow? A general page

You'll likely not be happy with the answer- especially with a family of 5 kids.
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Old 06-12-2013, 04:06 PM   #8
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If you want to pull a trailer with that Tahoe rated at 7700lbs you should target a trailer with a dry weight under 6000lbs. That will allow you 300-400lbs of cargo in the trailer and keep you around 85% of your max tow. But you have to check your Tahoe's payload capacity and work this into the equation. Even with a dry 6000lb trailer you are going to be travelling heavy and working the Tahoe hard. Don't get discouraged. You just need to look at more trailers between 5000-6000lbs. You will find one that you like if you are patient. When the numbers work out in the safe zone, you will feel a lot better when towing.

PS If the dealer says it is doable but pushing it - that is a bad sign!
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Old 06-12-2013, 04:18 PM   #9
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Doering, in this situation with 3-5 kids going, I still am concerned about running out of payload capacity for a 6,000 dry camper (which will likely be at least 7,000 pounds when wet).
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Old 06-12-2013, 04:21 PM   #10
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But, I'm very much on the side of staying within all ratings. If you know trucks and are an experienced tower-er, then you can make an educated decision about exceeding certain ones and choosing which you don't want to exceed.
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