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Old 06-08-2015, 09:36 PM   #31
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You could get a new receiver installed if you are concerned. Being at max of any rating could be trouble, won't necessarily will be, but could be. You actually have a pretty stout vehicle with a higher rear axle rating than 99% of F150's on the road. I wouldn't be surprised if your receiver is actually rated higher than the sticker shows.


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New receiver is most likely NOT the weakest link. The suspension is most likely the weak link.
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Old 06-09-2015, 01:16 AM   #32
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Okay, so today I went through the Equalizer WD hitch set-up. I think the air suspension is messing with me. After turning the air suspension off to do the initial measurements and hitch repositioning (lowered it one hole), and then turning it back on I tried some different “L” bracket positions. The position that gave me the best measurements was the one I started with but after going back to it, the measurements came out different. So, I decided to leave it that way and go to the CAT Scale.

I found the numbers at the CAT Scale pretty surprising. Evidently, that attachment to the tongue scale that goes up inside where the ball goes can give bad readings if not used just right. After my visit to the CAT Scale I couldn’t believe how low the tongue weight was. Had to try the tongue scale again but without that attachment and got a weight very close to the CAT Scale. So good news there.

Now, as you can see, the problem is the weight on the rear axle. After adding some needed tongue weight, can enough of the weight get redistributed with the right adjustments?

Here are the numbers:

TV Alone
Front 3180
Rear 3300
Total 6480

With WD Attached
TV Front 2920
TV Rear 4320
TV Total 7240
TT 5620

With WD Detached
TV Front 2700
TV Rear 4360
TV Total 7060
TT 5640
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Old 06-09-2015, 01:28 AM   #33
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Here are my numbers on the Conventional Towing Weight Safety Report:

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Old 06-09-2015, 11:08 AM   #34
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How is he not getting correct weight readings, he knows exactly what his tongue weight is by probably the most accurate way to get it with a Sherline gauge.
Didn't see his last post where he used a tongue weight scale. In his first couple of posts he said he only did two weights on the Cat scales.
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Old 06-09-2015, 12:52 PM   #35
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Okay, so today I went through the Equalizer WD hitch set-up. I think the air suspension is messing with me. After turning the air suspension off to do the initial measurements and hitch repositioning (lowered it one hole), and then turning it back on I tried some different “L” bracket positions. The position that gave me the best measurements was the one I started with but after going back to it, the measurements came out different. So, I decided to leave it that way and go to the CAT Scale.

I found the numbers at the CAT Scale pretty surprising. Evidently, that attachment to the tongue scale that goes up inside where the ball goes can give bad readings if not used just right. After my visit to the CAT Scale I couldn’t believe how low the tongue weight was. Had to try the tongue scale again but without that attachment and got a weight very close to the CAT Scale. So good news there.

Now, as you can see, the problem is the weight on the rear axle. After adding some needed tongue weight, can enough of the weight get redistributed with the right adjustments?

Here are the numbers:

TV Alone
Front 3180
Rear 3300
Total 6480

With WD Attached
TV Front 2920
TV Rear 4320
TV Total 7240
TT 5620

With WD Detached
TV Front 2700
TV Rear 4360
TV Total 7060
TT 5640

Increase spring bar tension by 1 hole then re weigh.


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Old 06-09-2015, 01:14 PM   #36
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The total from the second weigh is 12,860 and from the third weigh is 12,700. These should be the same. Makes no sense that the truck rear axle (and trailer axle) with and without WDH change so little while the front axle changes a lot. Something doesn't look right.

Your truck alone numbers are also much higher now than your original post weighing which may or may not mean anything depending on different passengers etc.


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Oh, you are right about the difference in weights and I should have mentioned that. In the heavier one my wife was in the front seat and we planned on her being there for the other one too, but she had to go inside. Then there was a truck behind me so I just got the weight without her to get off the scale quicker, so adding about 170 would be about right for that weight. She was back in the front seat for the TV only weight.
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Old 06-09-2015, 04:49 PM   #38
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The total from the second weigh is 12,860 and from the third weigh is 12,700. These should be the same. Makes no sense that the truck rear axle (and trailer axle) with and without WDH change so little while the front axle changes a lot. Something doesn't look right.

Your truck alone numbers are also much higher now than your original post weighing which may or may not mean anything depending on different passengers etc.


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This is the first time I have weighed with a full tank of gas. I believe that would be the difference.
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Old 06-09-2015, 06:39 PM   #39
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Dan, I think you'll be OK if you raise the L brackets 1 hole. This will put more weight back on the front axle and take some off the slightly overloaded rear. I think you'll find the rig also handles better if you get the front axle back to the truck alone figure.
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Old 06-09-2015, 07:30 PM   #40
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Dan, I think you'll be OK if you raise the L brackets 1 hole. This will put more weight back on the front axle and take some off the slightly overloaded rear. I think you'll find the rig also handles better if you get the front axle back to the truck alone figure.
I agree, raise the brackets one hole. The weights are looking better and I think your tongue weight is no longer an issue.
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