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Old 09-23-2013, 09:09 PM   #51
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Interesting close out for a diesel guy. When was the last time you saw a naturally aspirated diesel? The point in turbocharging gas or diesel is to get whatever your hauling off the line quickly without a ridiculously short gear.


No doubt forced induction is the key element here a turbo charger(s) WILL replace displacement.

Here is a dyno comparing a V8 5.0 F150 and an V6 ecoboost 3.5 same trucks same gear ratio same 4WD same day same dyno. Have a look at the torque curve and tell me there no replacement for displacement. Peak trq@2,900 rpms out of a gasser is simply awesome for towing

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The only place where the "no replacement" argument works is for those rice rocket tuners that think that cold air intakes, high flow mufflers and chipping a four banger will get you the power of an eight. Professional rally racers can do it, but for the same money, you can get an R/T Goat, SS Camaro or Shelby GT Mustang.
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No doubt forced induction is the key element here a turbo charger(s) WILL replace displacement.

Here is a dyno comparing a V8 5.0 F150 and an V6 ecoboost 3.5 same trucks same gear ratio same 4WD same day same dyno. Have a look at the torque curve and tell me there no replacement for displacement. Peak trq@2,900 rpms out of a gasser is simply awesome for towing

This 5.0 coyote with a charger with some engine mods and deep pockets can produce 1000 h/p try that with your eco boost
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Very funny and not shocking that a forced induction V8 will produce more power than a forced induction V6. The charts above are of PASSENGER PRODUCTION engines. In production form the lil V6 with the set of hair dryers flat spanks the 5.0 in torque output proving there is indeed a replacement for displacement.
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Very funny and not shocking that a forced induction V8 will produce more power than a forced induction V6. The charts above are of PASSENGER PRODUCTION engines. In production form the lil V6 with the set of hair dryers flat spanks the 5.0 in torque output proving there is indeed a replacement for displacement.
Who said 5.0L counted as significant displacement? Your difference in displacement is only 91 cubic inches. I've seen mopeds with more displacement than that!
As you said in your reply, not shocking that a forced induction V8 will produce more power than a forced induction V6. That is to say, more displacement. Welcome to America, land of "some's good, more's better"!

This is why Nissan and Toyota both started out with 4 cylinder engines and what do they make now? Come on, you can say it - V8's!

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Who said 5.0L counted as significant displacement? Your difference in displacement is only 91 cubic inches. I've seen mopeds with more displacement than that!
As you said in your reply, not shocking that a forced induction V8 will produce more power than a forced induction V6. That is to say, more displacement. Welcome to America, land of "some's good, more's better"!

This is why Nissan and Toyota both started out with 4 cylinder engines and what do they make now? Come on, you can say it - V8's!

I agree 100%
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What's the difference between a computer salesman and a car salesman?

The car salesman knows he's lying ...
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Who said 5.0L counted as significant displacement? Your difference in displacement is only 91 cubic inches. I've seen mopeds with more displacement than that!
As you said in your reply, not shocking that a forced induction V8 will produce more power than a forced induction V6. That is to say, more displacement. Welcome to America, land of "some's good, more's better"!

This is why Nissan and Toyota both started out with 4 cylinder engines and what do they make now? Come on, you can say it - V8's!

A moped/motorcycle is measured in cubic Centimeters dude a vast difference from a cubic inch. 91 inches is a decent amount of motor to overcome thats like claiming a 327 is not all that much smaller than a 427 lol comical for sure.
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FWIW 1.5 liters (the difference here) is 1,500 cubic centimeters maybe that moped was actually a Harley
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