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Old 06-07-2013, 12:13 PM   #1
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Note to all Ford owners.

Just a little information for all who have a new Ford that they are towing with for the first time. Being a new TT owner, I was unsure why my trailers battery was not charging while being towed. I contacted my dealer who helped me troubleshoot it on the phone and we came down to no power from my F150 to the trailer connects. I was advised to check under the hood for the fuse to the battery charging line. I got out my trucks manual and located the fuse section. I discovered that it had not only a 30 amp fuse to charger the towed trailer battery, but also a relay for the same circuit.

Being now armed with this knowledge and a schematic, I opened the hood and peered into the fuse box. After some searching, I discovered that the fuse had not blown, but was missing. Curious I next located the spot for the relay. It too was missing. Feeling a little upset that a new truck with a complete tow package would be missing these two critical items, I contacted my Ford dealer. The service department advised me that we would have to submit a warranty claim and then bring in my truck to have them installed. ????

I inquired how much it would cost me just to buy the fuse and relay and plug them in myself. This time I was placed on hold while service called parts to get the price. When they returned to the phone, I was advised that I would need to bring in my truck so they could look at it and determine the correct items to quote me a price. ????

Oh by the way they said, one of our service technicians told me that often, Ford will put these two items in a plastic bag in the glove compartment. ?????? New truck with a tow package, but they don't install the fuse and relay to charge the TT battery???

Guess what. Buried under the junk in my glove box,!,!,!,!, The fuse and the relay.

So for all who might buy a Ford to tow your TT. Check the fuse box under the hood for the fuse and relay before you tow. Missing??? They are probably in the glove box.

As an end note. I do love my truck and it does a great job of towing my VIBE 6504 and all of my associated items.

Have a great trip.

Rich in WV.
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Old 06-07-2013, 12:17 PM   #2
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Ford must have been doing this for a long time. I too am new to the TT. Mine is a 2004 and there were 2 Trailer kits in my Glove-Box.
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Old 06-07-2013, 12:21 PM   #3
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Just another reason to reaffirm my faith in the old but true saying - Ford Or Repair Daily or in this case, look in the glove box for any missing parts.

Seriously though - this is good information.
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Old 06-07-2013, 12:30 PM   #4
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I was reading this waiting for the part where you looked in the glove box...

My experience has been that all manufacturers do this, or a version of this for as long as I have been around trucks.

They used to include separate flashers for towing (before the days of solid state computers controlling that.) Just be glad they included them, I once bought a new truck (I won't say what brand because Turbs will get his panties twisted) that not only was missing the fuse and relay for the trailer power source, but also wiring for the electric brake control and told the manufacturer did not include those anymore. Picked up the fuse and relay I needed at O'Reilly and ordered the harness from brake manufacturer. Refused to buy from their parts counter.
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Old 06-07-2013, 01:46 PM   #5
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Ford must have been doing this for a long time. I too am new to the TT. Mine is a 2004 and there were 2 Trailer kits in my Glove-Box.
Yeah, my 2006 had the plug and play wiring harness and relay in the console.

This is good thread to remind owners that sometimes more is needed than just adding a brake controller.
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Old 06-07-2013, 04:43 PM   #6
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A GM has a pigtail wire all taped up under the hood that ships that way and must be unwrapped and installed on a stud in the underhood fuse box.

I think it's a liability thing. If the OEM sends 20-30 amps to the back of the truck where gravel can beat it up right next to the gas tank, it becomes their fault if it causes a fire. If someone else completes that circuit... it's not their fault anymore
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Old 06-07-2013, 05:25 PM   #7
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Gm has the two wires unhooked and taped to the wiring harnesses under the hood. One for charging the battery in the back. Other one us for trailer brake wiring harness blunt cut wires under the knee bolster. Also need to add j case fuse to fuse block. Done lots of these at work.
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Old 06-08-2013, 01:46 PM   #8
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Same here, I just bought a used 2006 F150 super crew and when we got it home tucked in the back seat pocket was a plastic bag with a relay, pigtail and instructions on how/where to install them.
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Oh by the way they said, one of our service technicians told me that often, Ford will put these two items in a plastic bag in the glove compartment. ?????? New truck with a tow package, but they don't install the fuse and relay to charge the TT battery???

Guess what. Buried under the junk in my glove box,!,!,!,!, The fuse and the relay.

Yep Ford's been doing that forever. Somebody at the dealership should have told you that.

Now that your ready to go...Enjoy!
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Old 06-10-2013, 10:48 AM   #10
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Normal. My 2008 and my 2012 were both the same. Your dealer should have know this right away.
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