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Old 06-07-2013, 10:12 PM   #81
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.I will take torque over horsepower any day! Better for pulling, racing and or mudding.
HP is what keeps you accelerating not TQ, I see 550HP @3300 RPM and a gas engine would have to run way more RPM,thats is what makes diesels a better platform , on the flats a 360HP diesel and a 360HP gas is equal, but add throttle to accell, or a hill and the higher HP in lower RPM will out perform. but it sure is nice the have the extra TQ when I need to get rolling
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Old 06-07-2013, 10:38 PM   #82
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The differance is trans locked in 3rd gear engine screaming at 3 grand and getting 8 miles to gallon VS cruise control on at 65mph trans in OD purring along at 1900RPM and never downshifting or taking out of cruise getting 12mpg. Love the Dmax
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Old 06-07-2013, 10:39 PM   #83
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your post said the chevy diesel cost more to maintain. I do the same maintaining as your cummins and it does not cost me more with my chevy diesel
I apologize, I was thinking the D-max held more oil than it does. You fuel filter is $10 higher than mine but holds two less quarts of oil. So yes the D-max is as cheap as the Cummins.
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$4.63 for an oil filter
$12.97 each for three gallons of oil
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That's $53.49 every 10,000 miles.
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Old 06-07-2013, 10:50 PM   #84
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HP is what keeps you accelerating not TQ, I see 550HP @3300 RPM and a gas engine would have to run way more RPM,thats is what makes diesels a better platform , on the flats a 360HP diesel and a 360HP gas is equal, but add throttle to accell, or a hill and the higher HP in lower RPM will out perform. but it sure is nice the have the extra TQ when I need to get rolling
You have this all wrong. Torque is what keeps you accelerating. It takes torque to over come the force. Horsepower is just a mere number that is used to tell you how much work can be done over a distance in a time frame. You can't have hp without torque and rpm's but you can have torque without hp or rpm. Also, torque can be multiplied by gearing, horsepower can not.
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Old 06-08-2013, 07:52 AM   #85
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why are all ET calculators in hp. and they have no bearing on TQ. the only required info is weight and HP it could be a 3300lb 200hp car or 400hp 7100lb truck. when I got off the dyno with my #`s and weeks later hit the strip the calculator was almost right on (minus reaction time)
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Old 06-08-2013, 08:37 AM   #86
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Because that's what hp is. It's a number that you get when figuring work done over an amount of time. The torque is what did the work. A dyno measures how much torque you are applying to the roller at a given RPM. That gives you the hp at that RPM.

torque X RPM / 5252 = hp
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I think we all need to stop throwing these claims around until and unless they can be backed up with solid data.

At this point, it's all about personal opinions and nothing else.

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I apologize, I was thinking the D-max held more oil than it does. You fuel filter is $10 higher than mine but holds two less quarts of oil. So yes the D-max is as cheap as the Cummins.
I pay:
$9.95 for a fuel filter
$4.63 for an oil filter
$12.97 each for three gallons of oil
I clean my air filter.
That's $53.49 every 10,000 miles.
The filter may cost more but we don't need to change it every 10, I have 16K on mine and wont need to change it for another 15K or more.
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I have a nicktane adapter in place of my factory filter and I run 2 micron CAT filter vs the 10 micron factory. I also have a airdog lift pump with watersep filter and 2 micron fuel filter (cat filter) in it`s place. my total fuel filter cost (3) every 10k miles is around 30 dollars, vs 40 for a single factory. plus the added benefits of cleaner fuel to my CP3 and positive pressure instead of vacume pulling fuel. cant understand why GM did not take the recommendation of BOSCH like dodge did to install a lift pump
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The filter may cost more but we don't need to change it every 10, I have 16K on mine and wont need to change it for another 15K or more.
To each his own I guess and I could go much longer too but $10 for my filter, I will just change it at every oil change. Cheap insurance and a 30 second job.
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