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Old 10-20-2014, 06:54 PM   #21
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I paid under 48000 for a 2014 3500 cclb. Rides better than some half tons I've had
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Old 10-20-2014, 06:57 PM   #22
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I noticed you said this is new adventure. I bought 2 trucks and 2 trailers in 2 years.....I run the B&W turnover ball setup in a 2012 F350 DRW diesel. Not towing, the truck was averaging close to 16mpg with mixed driving (city/hwy), towing is around 10mpg with a 42', 15k lb. trailer. My buddy has a F250 and was getting around 19mpg, mostly highway. Safety and stability were what mattered most to me, and the DRW is what I opted for, and it took all the questions out. When you mention toyhauler, I definitely think 1 ton for sure, and I'm sure if you cruise the interstate, you'll see lots of people doing it differently. The ultimate decision is what will get YOU there safely, and without causing harm to others.
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Old 10-20-2014, 07:06 PM   #23
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I paid under 48000 for a 2014 3500 cclb. Rides better than some half tons I've had
Due to dealer screw up, I paid a little south of $43k.


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I noticed you said this is new adventure. I bought 2 trucks and 2 trailers in 2 years.....I run the B&W turnover ball setup in a 2012 F350 DRW diesel. Not towing, the truck was averaging close to 16mpg with mixed driving (city/hwy), towing is around 10mpg with a 42', 15k lb. trailer. My buddy has a F250 and was getting around 19mpg, mostly highway. Safety and stability were what mattered most to me, and the DRW is what I opted for, and it took all the questions out. When you mention toyhauler, I definitely think 1 ton for sure, and I'm sure if you cruise the interstate, you'll see lots of people doing it differently. The ultimate decision is what will get YOU there safely, and without causing harm to others.
I get about 16 mpgs with my chevy. I don't feel as though my ride is all that rougher than my old cushy armada. The only time I notice it is when I get chucking from the fiver. Working on a solution to that problem now. The b&w turnover is probably the best solution out there for using the bed.
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Old 10-20-2014, 07:49 PM   #24
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well I just looked at the Chevy web-site....

Joel...are you referring to the weight that goes in the bed from the 5th er tongue weight?
I see the 2500 can take almost 2800lbs and the 3500 can handle lots more like 4300lbs.....well this is max payload numbers ... I guess whatever you got except the basic truck??? I have seen several 5ther's with 'pin' 'tongue' or whatever you call it weight in the 2500-2800 lb range...so I guess this does take it out of the 3/4 ton capability huh..?
Am I right with all this?

Damn....this thing keeps growing & growing!!!

OP I think you are doing this the right way - get your info before spending your cash

A small 5th TH like
Stealth Toy Hauler Fifth Wheel by Forest River
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A big 5th TH like
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No one has asked the original poster what his needs are. As in, what does he intend to put in the TH? How many people are going to be with him? If it's just him and a motorcycle, he doesn't need a 43' long TH with a 2900# pin weight, and a 2500, short bed, SRW with a B&W system and 30' 5th wheel TH will work just fine for him. Stop trying to sell him more set-up than he may need!

So, to the OP: what is going in the toy hauler, how many people will be traveling with you normally, and how long of a rig do you anticipate wanting or needing? Let's answer these questions, and go from there.
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Old 10-20-2014, 08:03 PM   #26
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Thanks Everyone!! lots of info....

in an earlier post I kinda laid out what I'm looking for....
Primarily just me with occasional guests..
I have a sport 4-wheeler & a sport-touring bike....about 1000lbs between the two.
1000lbs tools/BS
couple of bicycles/surfboards/snowboards
want a front bedroom set up
100 gal H2O...Generator
not really concerned about slide-outs...

I was figuring I would only be able to afford something on the smaller scale of 5th wheels???
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SGT Shultz...I like that first one you linked...the Stealth... can you tell me what something like that costs new? If you know..or anyone?

good info on the hitch too. thx..
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Old 10-20-2014, 08:26 PM   #28
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Skydrifter - sorry I am north of the 49th - the prices up here will be a whole lot more than your neck of the woods
looking here Giant RV I would guess in the 35 to 40k before negotiations - or less depending on the State you find the one you like in
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Old 10-20-2014, 08:29 PM   #29
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Skydrifter - I think you've got the cart (truck) before the horse (5th wheel). I suggest you decide what 5th wheel toy hauler you want, then find a truck that is MORE than capable of towing it. My experience - I bought a 2005 Titanium toy hauler that was 40 feet long and fairly light at 13,500 pounds. Had it delivered to a campground and paid the delivery driver to have it weighed on truck scales. I knew exactly what the pin and total weights were BEFORE I went truck shopping. I bought an 05 F350 SRW short box and Pullrite Superglide hitch. I found that the F350 was only a few hundred dollars more than the F250 but had a much higher cargo capacity (ability to carry the pin weight of the trailer). The ride when not towing was very smooth and I used the truck for a daily driver for 7 years. Why can't you take a test ride in a few 1 tons and 2500's and decide for yourself.
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Old 10-20-2014, 08:39 PM   #30
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3/4 tons are not worth buying in my opinion if you are going to be towing anything. Virtually no price difference to get a single wheel 1 ton.

And before someone says it, NO airbags aren't the solution
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