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Old 05-09-2012, 04:41 PM   #11
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Unless you're a fulltimer, a 3/4 ton for a 5000-6000# trailer is complete overkill.

I bought a truck to pull my trailer but I also knew it would be my daily driver as well because I'm not a fulltimer and need to go to work. A 3/4 ton wasn't even an option for me. I like the ride and size of my F150 and it pulls my TT with no problems.

A 5.4 in a newer F150 would be a good match for the OP's TT.

Funny how people see 3/4 ton and jump on the "1/2 tons plenty" band wagon. I never said or implied that a 1/2 ton would not do the job with the OP's current trailer. However if you had bothered to read you would see that I noted that like 80% of first time buyers, if the OP decided to upgrade to a larger trailer in the near future there would be no need to have to go out and buy another larger TV. 1/2 tons have their place and lots of folks think they are great for pulling their trailers. However I suspect the majority of those folks have never actually been across a set of scales or really do not understand how comfortable an adequate vs marginal TV really is.

Size difference between a 1/2 and 3/4 ton truck? HUH! Most manufacturers place the same or nearly identical bodies on top of the 1/2 and 3/4 ton underpinnings. Don't really understand your " A 3/4 ton wasn't even an option for me. I like the ride and size of my F150" comment is suppose to mean.
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Old 05-09-2012, 11:03 PM   #12
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Funny how people see 3/4 ton and jump on the "1/2 tons plenty" band wagon. I never said or implied that a 1/2 ton would not do the job with the OP's current trailer. However if you had bothered to read you would see that I noted that like 80% of first time buyers, if the OP decided to upgrade to a larger trailer in the near future there would be no need to have to go out and buy another larger TV. 1/2 tons have their place and lots of folks think they are great for pulling their trailers. However I suspect the majority of those folks have never actually been across a set of scales or really do not understand how comfortable an adequate vs marginal TV really is.

Size difference between a 1/2 and 3/4 ton truck? HUH! Most manufacturers place the same or nearly identical bodies on top of the 1/2 and 3/4 ton underpinnings. Don't really understand your " A 3/4 ton wasn't even an option for me. I like the ride and size of my F150" comment is suppose to mean.
Can't buy an F250 with a 5 and a half foot box. I like to park in my garage. An F250 also rides stiffer and is more money for the same trim level.

"1/2 tons" aren't like they used to be. The towing and payload capabilities of the newer ones is a far cry from how they were 20 or 30 years ago. I have a safe margin with my TV and TT and it tows comfortably and the OP would as well. Not everyone runs out and upgrades to a 10,000# TT after a couple of years.
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Old 05-10-2012, 08:28 AM   #13
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Not everyone runs out and upgrades to a 10,000# TT after a couple of years.
Agree. If the missus and I get another travel trailer, it will be smaller than the 1 we have now........and we are presently only at 28.5' and 5500 lbs.
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Old 05-10-2012, 08:48 AM   #14
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Funny how people see 3/4 ton and jump on the "1/2 tons plenty" band wagon. I never said or implied that a 1/2 ton would not do the job with the OP's current trailer.
You said "I am not a fan of 1/2 ton trucks except maybe for getting groceries". How is that NOT implying a 1/2 ton is inadequate for towing a TT?

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Size difference between a 1/2 and 3/4 ton truck? HUH! Most manufacturers place the same or nearly identical bodies on top of the 1/2 and 3/4 ton underpinnings. Don't really understand your " A 3/4 ton wasn't even an option for me. I like the ride and size of my F150" comment is suppose to mean.

The F250 is much larger than an F150. The F150 will fit in most garages while an F250/350 won't.

You also said that 80% of buyers upgrade after a year or so. Really? You have data backing that up? He has a 2013, I would bet dollars to doughnuts he is keeping it for awhile.

Some of us have to live with our TV being our everyday driver and don't need a 3/4 ton.
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You also said that 80% of buyers upgrade after a year or so. Really? You have data backing that up? He has a 2013, I would bet dollars to doughnuts he is keeping it for
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Old 05-10-2012, 10:37 AM   #16
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The first thing I would do after driving over a set of scales is ADD a transmission cooler... It's not that expensive, even if later you decide to sell. ALL TV's should have this.
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I have thought about a transmission cooler. The previous owners used this truck to haul a trailer with as well (don't know what kind) so wasn't sure if I really needed one. They towed from Leavenworth, KS to southern TX when they had it (at least according to the dealer). Do you know hard it would be to add one?
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I think you can get the part for around $125 then add labor so may end up around $250... perhaps any mechanics out there can respond with more details... I have generally purchased my vehicles with this option factory installed.
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Here's how I see it. A 1/2 ton will do you nicely. By "newer" I am assuming you are looking at a newer, previously owned vehicle. The 5.4 is a very nice towing motor; great torque curve. I would highly recommend that you get a 2009 or newer (Ford) if you can afford it as they started producing a 6 speed automatic at that time. The 6 speed is vastly superior for towing compared to the 4 speed.

Hope that is helpful. Good luck. If you make the change, I think you will be happier when towing.
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I would check the book to see if you are under powered or not. It would also be wise that if you do not know what the weight of your trailer is (missing the tag) I would get it both weighed.

It would be well worth the effort to get a transmission cooler if you do not have one installed. If the previous owners were doing lots of towing without one I would be a little leary about transmission problems in the future. Not that you would have any as they may have been towing very, very light.

I agree paid for is a good deal.

If I were considering a another vehicle in the future, I generally recommend getting one for the next TT you think you might own. After replacing two trucks before I got this one, I can tell you how expensive that can be.

There is a rather odd thing I discovered about towing. That is that seemingly more efficient TV does not equate to better MPG.

I was towing a Trailmanor 3326 behind my Toyota Taco 2WD V6 with a complete factory tow package. The Taco was good for 6,500#. I got about 13-15 MPG dragging that 3326 at 65-70. I got 22-24 MPG not towing.

When I replaced the 3326 with an 8,000#+ Puma Unleashed 27SBU and started towing with my GMC 2500HD Dmax Sierra Classic 4WD, I got 10-12MPG at 65-70 towing, and 18-24 MPG not towing.

Figuring in fuel differential its about 20% towing with the 3/4 ton Dmax. But that is still comparing apples and oranges. The 27SBU is A LOT more trailer than the 3326 and the Dmax truck is a lot more truck.

In the mountains, MPG with the 3326/Taco dropped below 8 routinely with an uphill max of 50 MPH (floored). The 27SBU/Dmax has been up some long hills, no mountains yet (later this summer), and has always stayed north of 8 MPG and cruise control loafed. 4WD is nice, because on my first outing the 27SBU would have gotten stuck without it.

I certainly believe a better, bigger V8 might help you all around. However, be aware our friends in area code 202 keep contemplating adding more ethanol to gas and that might be disasterous to towing performance. Newer vehicles tolerate this scourge better, but until things stabilize in Washington, it is something to keep in mind.

Another thing to remember that if your current rig is handling this OK, it might be better to save your money. If you are doing more mountain travel bigger may better. However, by 2015 it has been rumored that 1/2 ton diesels may make their way back onto the market (Cummins/Nissan) again. That might give you the performance/economy you are looking for without selling the house.
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