Opinion on which truck???

[cfiowa]

just my 2 cents. bought my first used diesel 05 chevy 2500 with only 50k back in 2009 LLY engine towed by first 5th wheel copper canyon. Engine fan ran all the time while towing. put engine tuner on got betting towing. put new driver side exhaust manifold on to improve exhaust flow. Fan still ran. Then injector problems, blown head gaskets both sides. Lucky all was under warranty.

Bought new cedar creek 2014 36ckts. traded my old diesel in and bought a new 2014 chevy 1 ton dully. not one problem. runs great and no issues, and no warranty problems, truck is fully loaded, and with only 5000 miles on it.

In my opinion only buy new you dont want to run into someone else problems on a used truck.



2014 cedar creek 36ckts
2014 Chevy 3500 1 ton crew cab 4x4 long bed.


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[twiggw]

5K will pay for a lot of camping. Either will do the job, but from what you've described I'd have to go with the gas. Have fun

[Hpuck99]

Look more!!!! I get 12.5 mph with my F350 single tire 6.4 L diesel engine 2008 69,000 miles .

[Tonkatoy77]

Originally Posted by DocGTO

2011 was a big year for GM. They switched from the LMM Dmax to the LML Dmax. In 2013 they changed their frame, suspension, and brakes. Big leaps and bounds with that move. A 13+ would be the best bet but you cannot go wrong with an 11+ LML Dmax. Best of the bunch and the Allison tuning is much better.

2011 is when the frame, suspension, and brakes improved. There was no changes in 2013.


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[ferguson65]

The price on the 07 seems nuts to me. It's an 8 year old truck. The 15 price may be good, but have you priced a new one yet? Barring any very specific options on the used 15, you may be able to walk away with a new (6.0 gas) truck for the same money. Used isn't always cheaper.

As already pointed out with used you can be buying someone else's headaches. I had that on a 2007 (5.9) Ram 3500, truck was a nightmare, one thing after the other. Only had 64k when I sold it to a dealer who was beating my door down for it. I'll never buy another used HD truck. Too many ways to abuse them.

[Tonkatoy77]

Originally Posted by Hpuck99

Look more!!!! I get 12.5 mph with my F350 single tire 6.4 L diesel engine 2008 69,000 miles .

What do you have done to yours to get that good of mileage? My brother-in-law has a 2010 F-350 6.4L crew cab 8ft. bed pulling a 30ft. Keystone Cougar. Loaded his trailer is at about 8500 lbs. he has never seen 10mpg. He is usually getting around 8mpg. His truck is completely stock.


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[HappyGuy]

Another thought folks have not mentioned is that diesel fuel does not like to sit. It collects water and wreaks havoc on the fuel system when it sits. If you're not going to drive the truck regularly the gas rig is the way to go. Just be patient when going up grades and upgrade the insulation on the floor and firewall to quiet the engine :-)

[Ford Idaho]

Originally Posted by Tonkatoy77

What do you have done to yours to get that good of mileage? My brother-in-law has a 2010 F-350 6.4L crew cab 8ft. bed pulling a 30ft. Keystone Cougar. Loaded his trailer is at about 8500 lbs. he has never seen 10mpg. He is usually getting around 8mpg. His truck is completely stock.


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I got 10.1 over 1600 miles which is up from the 9.3 I got last year with my 2010 6.4 with around 37,000 miles on it.

The lite and truck weighed in at just a touch under 17,000 pounds.

[mike.t]

Oh and this never works.
"I don't want to really get into the gas vs diesel debate"

[mike.t]

Originally Posted by HappyGuy

Another thought folks have not mentioned is that diesel fuel does not like to sit. It collects water and wreaks havoc on the fuel system when it sits. If you're not going to drive the truck regularly the gas rig is the way to go. Just be patient when going up grades and upgrade the insulation on the floor and firewall to quiet the engine :-)

Confused about the upgrade the insulation on the floor and firewall to quiet the engine :-)
Is that for the gasser you are talking about cause they don't like grades and that motor is going to be screaming? Or Diesel's are noisy?
Just ask'n.

[DocGTO]

Originally Posted by Tonkatoy77

2011 is when the frame, suspension, and brakes improved. There was no changes in 2013.


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Oops, Correct. They only change for the HDs was the wheel bolt pattern in 13.

[RubberNail]

As said before, I have both engines - 2007 GMC Classic 2500HD 4x4 Duramax and 2013 Chevy G4500 with 6.0, 4.10 rears. NEITHER is noisy! Duramax is quieter going up mountains. You can have normal conversations in the cab going 70 mph on level road in either. Diesel collects water if you leave the tank cap off. Had Dodge Cummins dually in prior life and had to drain the water filter on several occasions, but have not had to drain filter on GMC during the 85000 miles I've put on it. You guys bashing the 07 Classic Durmax LBZ need to talk with folks who pull for a living. That's a highly favored engine/transmission combo. But as I said before, the 6.0 (which has variable valve timing and not to be confused with it's predecessors) with 4.10 rears pulls really good, and if you have 5k or less annual towing mileage, an excellent (would be my) choice. I stand by my mileage figures in the prior posts. Seems like there's always someone with an axe to grind.

[mike.t]

Originally Posted by DocGTO

Oops, Correct. They only change for the HDs was the wheel bolt pattern in 13.

Didn't they also change in '10 or '11? I had an '11 2500 HD and for the life of me could not find a used rim.

[cfiowa]

When camping season is done. I drive around till the tank almost empty then put in winter fuel for us in Iowa. Then truck sits in driveway all winter till about March. I do start it up once a week and let it run to temperature, it's also plugged into a block heater on a timer. For about 4 hours. So far no issues on the fuel side. But def fluid does freeze up when it really cold outside, when that happens the def and engine light comes on, but when temp outside rises light goes out. But otherwise a very good truck


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2014 Chevy 3500 1 ton crew cab 4x4 long bed.


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[saltyman]

I own a 2007 Chevy Duramax Diesel with 97,500 miles on it and I have replaced a Glow Plug since I bought it new in 2007. I think 2008 and above years have a type of catylitic converter installed which reduces the horsepower by 8-10%. My DW wants me to replace the spark plugs during the 100,000 mile tune up!!!!! (:>)

[Ford Idaho]

Originally Posted by saltyman

I own a 2007 Chevy Duramax Diesel with 97,500 miles on it and I have replaced a Glow Plug since I bought it new in 2007. I think 2008 and above years have a type of catylitic converter installed which reduces the horsepower by 8-10%. My DW wants me to replace the spark plugs during the 100,000 mile tune up!!!!! (:>)

Well if you are doing the plugs you just as well get a cap and a set of wires to go along with them.

Have you replaces the muffler bearings yet?

[Tonkatoy77]

Originally Posted by mike.t

Didn't they also change in '10 or '11? I had an '11 2500 HD and for the life of me could not find a used rim.

Yes in 2011 they went to the 8x180mm


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[mike.t]

Ford. I think that was a smile he put in after the spark plug thing.

[Tonkatoy77]

Originally Posted by Ford Idaho

Well if you are doing the plugs you just as well get a cap and a set of wires to go along with them.

Have you replaces the muffler bearings yet?

You forgot the points and condenser too!!


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[gilwilliams101]

WOW! I can't believe ANYONE would have to ask this question! Is there any other truck out there besides a RAM w/6.7 CUMMINS and a 68RFE trans??? I should think not. The answer is simple.