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Old 02-12-2016, 04:16 PM   #21
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38k for a new 3500 is a good price. How many months of $200.00 payments? Never mind. Just noticed it's a gasser.
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Old 02-12-2016, 04:48 PM   #22
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Love my 06 lbz 3500drw I bought from salty northern mn last jan! Great truck. I searched for a long time to find a fair prices unit because, as others have said, that lbz is highly sought after and costs a premium. I paid just over $20k for a loaded gmc with about 130k on the clock. Injectors were done at about 115k miles so I'm good for another 100k or so. Happy campin!
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Old 02-12-2016, 05:00 PM   #23
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No, the $38K was for a new 2015 Ram 3500 CC 4wd diesel with stock (ST) options...

The $200 payments are for my 2011 Ram 2500 CC w/gas 5.7 Hemi purchased in 2013 for $14K...

The point is, I just don't see the logic of buying a 10 year-old GMC 3/4 ton for $27K when you can have a 2-3 year-old truck, with the same capabilities, for LESS. (Or new 2016 diesel 1 ton for 30% more... I mean, that's 10 years newer & more capability for just 30%...)
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I bought a 2007 GMC 2500HD Crew 4x4 SWB Classic (LBZ) new in 2007. Have 80k miles on it. Almost all that towing a Montana 5th wheel, about 14,000 # as we travel. That includes western mountain driving and 2 trips up the Alcan to Alaska. Mpg depends on how fast you travel. Not towing, interstate, 70 mph about 17 mpg. Local commuting (seldom done) about 16 mpg. Towing 9.5 at 70, 10.5 at 60 and 11 + at 55 mph. Worst ever running into a 30 mph headwind running 5th gear at about 55, 8.5 mpg. Love the truck and likely the last I'll ever own. Only downside is the 25 gal tank. I added a 50 gal bed tank. I'm right at my max GCVWR and about 50# over on my rear axle. Those are the controlling parameters. GVWR applies to a hauled load and you really don't have to worry that if the rear axle/tires are okay an the GCVWR is within your transmission towing capacity.

You likely need to change the transmission oil and filter as likely hasn't been done. The Allison has a spin on transmission filter so you don't need to drop the pan.

I'm told that the LBZ/Allison combo is best of the best. I've owned 2 pre 2007 Dodge Cummins and loved the engine but the LBZ/Allison combo is far superior to those pre 2007 Dodge engine/transmission combo's. Friend of mine that I tow with had a new 2007 Ford when I purchased my GMC. He's on his 3rd Ford since then. Slow learner.
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No, the $38K was for a new 2015 Ram 3500 CC 4wd diesel with stock (ST) options...

The $200 payments are for my 2011 Ram 2500 CC w/gas 5.7 Hemi purchased in 2013 for $14K...

The point is, I just don't see the logic of buying a 10 year-old GMC 3/4 ton for $27K when you can have a 2-3 year-old truck, with the same capabilities, for LESS. (Or new 2016 diesel 1 ton for 30% more... I mean, that's 10 years newer & more capability for just 30%...)

A gasser does not have the same capabilities as a diesel, regardless if it's 10 yrs newer or not. When pulling, I would take a 10yr old diesel over a new gasser.


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Love my 06 lbz 3500drw I bought from salty northern mn last jan! Great truck. I searched for a long time to find a fair prices unit because, as others have said, that lbz is highly sought after and costs a premium. I paid just over $20k for a loaded gmc with about 130k on the clock. Injectors were done at about 115k miles so I'm good for another 100k or so. Happy campin!
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been thinking of selling my 09 gmc sierra cc 3500 diesel dually long box 4x4. 36,000 miles, every option except rear sliding window and many add ons- never driven in snow. thinking of getting the same in denali . can do it by keeping the payments the same and of course adding 5 more years. dealer offered me the same price trade in as when i bought 5 years ago
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A gasser does not have the same capabilities as a diesel...
I wasn't claiming my lowly 2011 Ram 2500 gasser has the same towing capability as a diesel... (Although it would have no problems towing the OP's TT - same weight as mine...) I was stating that if you are going to pay a premium ($27K) for a 10 year-old pre-emissions Duramax/Allison GMC then you should get the 1 ton frame so that you have enough payload for the 14,000 lb. 5ers this combo is capable of pulling... Also, for $27K it should come loaded, not near stock...

Secondly, IMO the 2006/2007 GMCs are overpriced; for the same money you can get a 4th generation Ram 3500 w/Cummins TD. Justin sayin' I'd rather have the newer truck with newer tech... The engine & tranny may last forever, but the rest of the truck will start to nickel & dime you. (We just replaced corroded A/C & brake lines in a 11 year-old vehicle that shows no rust anywhere else - garage kept & washed often...)

AND, I've seen a lot of GMCs that didn't show as much rust as Fords/Rams until they passed the 10 year mark. Then they seem to catch-up. For $27K that truck should last another 10 years & I haven't seen a 20 year-old GMC around here that still looks good...

Or... You pay $27K, someone T-bones you, and the insurance pays only $20K... Just sayin'... Don't EVER over-pay...
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I wasn't claiming my lowly 2011 Ram 2500 gasser has the same towing capability as a diesel... (Although it would have no problems towing the OP's TT - same weight as mine...) I was stating that if you are going to pay a premium ($27K) for a 10 year-old pre-emissions Duramax/Allison GMC then you should get the 1 ton frame so that you have enough payload for the 14,000 lb. 5ers this combo is capable of pulling... Also, for $27K it should come loaded, not near stock...

Secondly, IMO the 2006/2007 GMCs are overpriced; for the same money you can get a 4th generation Ram 3500 w/Cummins TD. Justin sayin' I'd rather have the newer truck with newer tech... The engine & tranny may last forever, but the rest of the truck will start to nickel & dime you. (We just replaced corroded A/C & brake lines in a 11 year-old vehicle that shows no rust anywhere else - garage kept & washed often...)

AND, I've seen a lot of GMCs that didn't show as much rust as Fords/Rams until they passed the 10 year mark. Then they seem to catch-up. For $27K that truck should last another 10 years & I haven't seen a 20 year-old GMC around here that still looks good...

Or... You pay $27K, someone T-bones you, and the insurance pays only $20K... Just sayin'... Don't EVER over-pay...
Dodges don't even compare to these trucks when it comes to retaining value. The Cummins is a decent motor, but the rest of the truck is junk.....

I sold my 2005 LT chevy duramax 4x4 2500hd with 134,000miles, stock engine and tons of maintenance records, this past september for $23,000 and the guy drove about 300 miles to get it. My phone blew up with calls and text as soon as i listed it at $24,500 which was over book value!!!!
Of course a new truck equivalent to my '05 would be a about $65k now.

OP....that is one of the best diesel engines in that 2007. Even at $27k Its an ok deal, if you got it around $25k ish, and its as clean in person, you done really good!

Heres my old dmax right before i sold it.
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Dodges don't even compare to these trucks when it comes to retaining value. The Cummins is a decent motor, but the rest of the truck is junk.....

I sold my 2005 LT chevy duramax 4x4 2500hd with 134,000miles, stock engine and tons of maintenance records, this past september for $23,000 and the guy drove about 300 miles to get it. My phone blew up with calls and text as soon as i listed it at $24,500 which was over book value!!!!
Of course a new truck equivalent to my '05 would be a about $65k now.

OP....that is one of the best diesel engines in that 2007. Even at $27k Its an ok deal, if you got it around $25k ish, and its as clean in person, you done really good!

Heres my old dmax right before i sold it.

I agree, around here the older Cummins bring good money(way more than the truck itself is worth because they want the engine), but the new ones you can pick up for near nothing(compared to what they sold for new). Maybe it's territorial thing, I don't know. I do know that I bought and sold 2 new Duramax trucks over a 4yr period and it cost me a total of $6k to drive fully loaded 4x4's during that time.
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