Payload capacity 2013 F250 diesel

[marcindy]

I apologize for having to post this, but I'm confused. From searching the forum and the net, I believe the rated payload capacity for a 2013 F250 HD Platinum crew cab is around 2500lbs. I see a recent truck posted for sale, and there is a picture on the load rating sticker on the door panel, and indicates "weight of cargo and passengers should not exceed 1829". What am I missing in the 700lbs or so delta between the Ford's towing guide, and what is placed on the truck itself?

Thanks
for what it's worth, I'm looking to tow a Lacrosse 329BHT, and the tong weight will easily get at or over 1,000 lbs.

[asquared]

The ratings on website are typically for the stripped down models. Every option on a vehicle adds weight that takes away from payload. With a door sticker of 1829 you will need to subtract the weight of all occupants, pets and cargo that will be in the truck when towing. I'm betting that could easily drop it below 1500.

That tt has a gvwr of 11280 lbs. You will more likely be somewhere around 10,000 lbs loaded. Ideal tongue weight is 13-15% of loaded tt weight. So now you are talking 1300-1500 lbs tongue weight. It could be more or less. With a tt that heavy, I would be looking at 1 ton trucks. The other thing to pay attention to is receiver ratings. Many trucks class V receivers max around 1500 lbs. I did recently learn that a short bed chevy (both 2500 and 3500) max receiver rating.g is 1500 lbs. For the same truck in a long bed the receiver beefed up to 2000 lbs max receiver ratings. Pay very close attention to all actual ratings on the exact truck you buy.

[ironj]

Your receiver on a 250 will be a class 5...with 2.5 inch shank and wd hitch its rated for 15k or so....

I have a lacrosse and tow around 10k loaded....

With my wife, kid, genny, and extra fuel in the bed I was over a few lbs last trip....

That said, truck towed More than fine all the way up colorado and even bear tooth....

If you opt for stock suspension you will get a noticeable sag at over 1000lb tongue....mine has air lit bags .

Love it so much im getting another one....a 2015 platinum DUALLY....(a 15k 5er th behind it)...

My advice...go 350....or put bags on the 250...they will tow the same

[BigBaron]

They are the same except a 4" spacer on the rear axle as opposed to a 2" on the 250, and an additional leaf spring.
Adjustable air bags will keep the smoother ride while allowing you to keep the truck level with load IMHO.

[X96mnn]

If your going to mod it just to make it a 350 and have not purchased it yet, cheaper just to buy the 350. Everything stated in post 2 about the differance in book weight and what's on the door is spot on.

[marcindy]

Wow, I knew the actual payload was a little lower than spec, but didn't realize it was that far off. I was originally thinking of the f150 EB max payload, clearly that won't be enough.
Anyone know what the true payload for a GMC 2500 CC is approx, or is it about the same as F250?

Thx

[X96mnn]

I believe the new chev 2500 is around 3760pds less options and such for the gas and 3500 for the diesel.

I looked at the fords, chev, and dodges back between April and July. My experiance looking at the door stickers the F250 was comparable to the 1500s in the other lines but added what appeared to be a much stronger frame, braking and drive train then the 1500 trucks. Really set up for doing more then what it appeared rated for. Long and short to compare I had to step up a model in the fords, the F350 compared to the chev and dodge 2500s while the F450 compared to the 3500s.

Again, brand I did not care all though a long time Dodge owner, this was about bang for my buck.

[jimmac28]

Just remember each truck is different, there are plenty of F250's that have a better payload the an F350. It all depends how you option your truck, for example I owned a F250 XLT 4X2 SRW gasser that had a payload of 3533 lb. There were a lot of F350's in the same lot that didn't come close to that payload.

When you go looking at trucks, look in the door jam, that's where the payload for that specific truck will be. The more options the less payload.

[X96mnn]

Jimmac is correct, I am only going off what the dealers had on their lots in my area. There was only two 250s where they had 6 350s. Comparing the similar optioned 250 to a 350 was not a lot in the differance, like $1500.

The only reason I went with the dodge, the dealer dropped 21k off the msrp and it became 3k less then the Ford f350 DRW. I almost still went with the Ford as the options for the 3k almost made it worth it, back up camera, upgraded interior, snow prep package and others. What bought would be called the farmers package, I went in with best price in mind as I will only be using it to haul my camper. If I was going to daily drive it, the F350 would be in my yard today.

The chevs were ruled out quick, I would need to order in comparable as they only had LTZ and I was looking to buy. The LTZ was about 10k more then the dodge but again the options made me drool a little.

[marcindy]

ironj, what hitch are you running?
We mostly dry camp in our HHT, and my 3 batteries, bikes, solar, water has my hitch at 1,000lbs +/- a little. I'm sure the 329 will jump up quickly depending on where the fresh water is located.

Amazing, I started out with the dealer telling me my Sequoia would tow the Lacrosse (which I knew it wouldn't), now we're up to 1 ton... lol
We spend ~60 nights a year in the trailer, so the 329 floor plan is really appealing

[ironj]

Originally Posted by marcindy

ironj, what hitch are you running?
We mostly dry camp in our HHT, and my 3 batteries, bikes, solar, water has my hitch at 1,000lbs +/- a little. I'm sure the 329 will jump up quickly depending on where the fresh water is located.

Amazing, I started out with the dealer telling me my Sequoia would tow the Lacrosse (which I knew it wouldn't), now we're up to 1 ton... lol
We spend ~60 nights a year in the trailer, so the 329 floor plan is really appealing

Just a reg ol husky wd hitch with 1200lb round bars....I also carry 2 bikes on a clamp on hitch as well as a minimum of 12gal of fresh...

Setup is key and it took me a few adjustments to get it just right. ...she pulls in 6th @65 on cruise with 2 fingers on the wheel.....even going through wyoming with 60-70mpg cross winds..one sway bar ...no sway....it's worked fine so I havent bothered to change it...

[ironj]

Also I have 2 group 27 batts on the tongue and my storage is always full!

[asquared]

I can tell you the payload on my 2009 f250 PSD was 1500 lbs. The payload on several 2014 chevy 2500 CC duramax that we looked at was around 2400-2600 lbs. The short beds had the lower hitch rating of 1500 lbs, the long beds had the higher hitch rating of 2000 lbs. Some 2014 chevy 3500 CC duramax had payloads around 3000. The 3500 hitch ratings were the same as the 2500. We had to look hard to find Tuffy. Tuffy is our 2014 chevy 3500 SRW CC 4wd duramax with the LT package and snow plow prep package. This truck came in with a hitch rating of 2000 lbs (we were originally looking at sabre tt with a gvwr over 11,000 lbs) and a payload of just under 4000 lbs. Took the truck to the cat scale, with the family, dog, fiver hitch, etc I have 3320 lbs of available payload left. Plenty of room and power for my fiver that weighs 12380 lbs loaded (2620 lb pin weight). There was also plenty of room and power of I had gone with the 11000 lb sabre tt.

I almost bought a dodge 3500 SRW CC 4WD short bed with fiver prep. The hitch rating was 1500 lbs on that truck as well. I wish I could remember the payload but I believe it was just north of 3000 lbs. I was so frustrated with my ford diesel at that point that I didn't even consider Ford's in the running and so I never looked at their capacities.

[marcindy]

asquared
Did you have issues with your F250, or was it related the dealer?
Give my father-in-law worked at GM for 30 yrs, we will probably end up going that way, but I do like interior of the fords over GMC, but not critical

[campingwilliamsons]

Originally Posted by marcindy

Wow, I knew the actual payload was a little lower than spec, but didn't realize it was that far off. I was originally thinking of the f150 EB max payload, clearly that won't be enough.
Anyone know what the true payload for a GMC 2500 CC is approx, or is it about the same as F250?

Thx

Crazy enough, I had a 2013 F150 Lariat Crew Cab, HD Payload, max tow and it had a 2428lbs payload rating per the door sticker. The 4x4 version was 2208. That said, the F150 has a max tongue weight of 1150 lbs.

I towed my current fifth wheel with no issues, but wanted 4x4. That put me too close to the payload rating, so I went hunting for a 3/4 ton. Every 3/4 ton crew cab short bed diesel 4x4 had payload ratings per the door sticker of under 2050lbs, brand did not matter, similarly equipped, they all were within 100 lbs of each other. Long beds were even lower. The 1 ton Ford Lariat was only $400.00 more than the same 3/4 ton, and has a payload rating per the door sticker of 3550 lbs., so it was a no brainer.

FYI, for Ford going from 3/4 ton to 1 ton gets you the larger payload, hydro boost brakes, larger diameter axles (axles housing is the same as 3/4 ton but the axles are physically larger), thicker ring gears in the differentials, 4 inch blocks, and heavier duty springs. I know of with 2000 lbs in the bed, my truck is not even on the overloads yet. The same 3/4 ton truck would be on the overloads and hitting the bump stops on the big bumps (railroad crossings, etc.

[Frank-VA]

http://www.fordf150.net/specs/05sd_specs.pdf

[BigBaron]

Originally Posted by campingwilliamsons

FYI, for Ford going from 3/4 ton to 1 ton gets you the larger payload, hydro boost brakes, larger diameter axles (axles housing is the same as 3/4 ton but the axles are physically larger), thicker ring gears in the differentials, 4 inch blocks, and heavier duty springs

This fits in with what everone else has said-all the changes are internal except for the hydro boost brakes. Externally they are similar.
I stand corrected!
Thanks for the info!!!

[DocGTO]

I just checked mine and it is a little over 2600 lbs on my 2014 chevy 2500 CCSB 4x4. I do have bags in it with on board air too.

[DocGTO]

Originally Posted by campingwilliamsons

FYI, for Ford going from 3/4 ton to 1 ton gets you the larger payload, hydro boost brakes, larger diameter axles (axles housing is the same as 3/4 ton but the axles are physically larger), thicker ring gears in the differentials, 4 inch blocks, and heavier duty springs. I know of with 2000 lbs in the bed, my truck is not even on the overloads yet. The same 3/4 ton truck would be on the overloads and hitting the bump stops on the big bumps (railroad crossings, etc.

That is the major difference with the Ford and Chevy going from 2500 to 3500. On the chevy it is just the rear spring packs. All else is the same. That is why you swap out the springs or add bags and you are good.

[TURBS]

If everyone looked at there "actual" payload sticker they'd be SHOCK ED THAT IT'S WAY LOWER THEN "printed" spec.

Turbs