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Old 09-19-2015, 06:01 PM   #1
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Hey guys I have a question I have a 2014 Ram 1500 with max towing. It can tow 10,500 but that's not my concern I never considered payload when buying. Now I really really want to bring my golf cart along but with a payload capacity of 1709 lbs I have a slight problem. The hitch weight on my trailer is roughly 800 lbs and my cart is around 900 with my family coming in around 450 lbs for a ball park of let's say 2200 lbs which is obviously over the payload but here is the question. If my WDH puts a percentage of that weight back onto the trailer and off my truck in theory that should change the hitch weight. If I remove my 4 batteries that weight about 370 from the golf cart and put them in the back of the trailer depending on how much weight the hitch is distributing I could possible have reduced the hitch weight by maybe 600 lbs which if nothing else is in the truck could put me under my payload capacity by roughly 100lbs. Am I correct in my thinking or is there something I am missing. I could possibly be way over estimating how much weight the hitch is removing from my truck or just be completely wrong. If I carry nothing else in my truck and I am under the towing capacity and the GVWR of the trailer is this possible?
I have a 2016 27dbs Coachmen Catalina.
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Old 09-19-2015, 06:36 PM   #2
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I would estimate 150 from the WDH. Still puts you in the ballpark.


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Old 09-19-2015, 06:42 PM   #3
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Is that 1700 lbs from the drivers door. I was amazed that my payload is only 1100lbs. 2013 RAM 1500 big horn
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Old 09-19-2015, 06:49 PM   #4
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My understanding is that the WDH distributes some of the tongue weight to your truck's front axle & not too much to the TT axles... Your your truck will still need to handle most of the tongue weight of your (loaded) TT (800) plus family (450) plus anything else you load. I don't think removing the batteries will get your golf cart under 450 and it's dangerous to move so much weight to the rear of your TT that you have less than 13%-15% on the tongue...

Ironically, your 2014 Ram 1500 has about the same towing capacity as my 2011 Ram 2500 w/5.7 Hemi because the newer Ram's have 6+ speed trannies whereas mine is only a 5 speed. However, my 2500 has a payload of 3,000. Towing an 8,000 lb. (loaded) TT w/tongue weight of 1300, our payload is around 2400. This is with a fiberglass cap, family of 5, and about 300 lbs. of camping necessities under the cap.
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Old 09-19-2015, 06:51 PM   #5
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Is that 1700 lbs from the drivers door. I was amazed that my payload is only 1100lbs. 2013 RAM 1500 big horn
1100 lbs = 0.55 tons.

It's not an exact science, but it's kinda why they're called "1/2 ton trucks."

1700 lbs is almost "3/4 ton," but as I said, it's not an exact science.

This is why all trucks are not created equal, and you need to really know what your truck is capable of. Saying "1/2 ton" or "3/4 ton" isn't enough.

This is also why anyone who believes the salesman when he says "Oh, a 1/2 ton can pull this," without checking the details is an idiot.
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Old 09-19-2015, 06:58 PM   #6
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Payload question

Most 1/2 ton trucks can carry more than that. These days 1/2 ton is name only heck my minivan had a 1250 lb. payload. I don't consider myself an idiot . I was just making sure the payload number is correct and not from the web site.
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Most 1/2 ton trucks can carry more than that. These days 1/2 ton is name only heck my minivan had a 1250 lb. payload.
That's exactly why I said it's not an exact science.
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Yes sir that's from the drivers door. The truck handles the trailer no problem at all. The golf cart and payload however I failed to consider when researching my truck prior to purchase
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These days 1/2 ton is name only...
Ya, today you have to shop by specs because the lines are so blurred... Folks drive work trucks overloaded all of the time & the main issue is that parts wear-out a little faster... However, with family on-board driving longer distances I want to have a safely margin - so I stay within the specs. IMO the specs provide wiggle-room for bad surfaces, sudden stops & windy/hilly roads...

IMO there are always bad drivers out there that test my reflexes & my TV/TT combo's stability. The worst are the ones that dart-across the highway because I leave more space between me & the car in front-so I have enough emergency stopping distance... I've nearly clipped a few & feel bad for semi drivers who face those idiot drivers everyday...
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Hey guys I have a question I have a 2014 Ram 1500 with max towing. It can tow 10,500 but that's not my concern I never considered payload when buying. Now I really really want to bring my golf cart along but with a payload capacity of 1709 lbs I have a slight problem. The hitch weight on my trailer is roughly 800 lbs and my cart is around 900 with my family coming in around 450 lbs for a ball park of let's say 2200 lbs which is obviously over the payload but here is the question. If my WDH puts a percentage of that weight back onto the trailer and off my truck in theory that should change the hitch weight. If I remove my 4 batteries that weight about 370 from the golf cart and put them in the back of the trailer depending on how much weight the hitch is distributing I could possible have reduced the hitch weight by maybe 600 lbs which if nothing else is in the truck could put me under my payload capacity by roughly 100lbs. Am I correct in my thinking or is there something I am missing. I could possibly be way over estimating how much weight the hitch is removing from my truck or just be completely wrong. If I carry nothing else in my truck and I am under the towing capacity and the GVWR of the trailer is this possible?

I have a 2016 27dbs Coachmen Catalina.

Thanks for the replies.

There are several good threads in here as well as many explanations of how a WDH works. Weight the truck and trailer and then you will be sure. I believe the number leveraged to the trailer axle is app 25% of actual tongue weight not published tongue weight.


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