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Old 12-02-2017, 11:46 AM   #1
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Payload with 1/2 tons?

Hey guys, my current truck has a 1500 lb payload capacity. My question is, is it common to be at or slightly above the payload capacity? Its a full size crew cab V8. With 3 kids, dogs, 2 adults and gas- I'm at near 8-900 lbs. Add a 400-500 lb hitch weight from a travel trailer and I'm maxed. (wanting a 4000-4500 dry weight travel trailer).

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Old 12-02-2017, 12:12 PM   #2
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Hey guys, my current truck has a 1500 lb payload capacity. My question is, is it common to be at or slightly above the payload capacity? Its a full size crew cab V8. With 3 kids, dogs, 2 adults and gas- I'm at near 8-900 lbs. Add a 400-500 lb hitch weight from a travel trailer and I'm maxed. (wanting a 4000-4500 dry weight travel trailer).

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Dry weights are for suckers. They're just a marketing ploy. Ignore them. Look at the GVWR posted on the sticker on the side of the TT. Multiply it by 12-15% to get an estimate of what your tongue weight will be.

A 4000-4500 dry weight TT will end up being 5500 lbs or more loaded, with a tongue weight of around 700+ lbs. A weight distribution hitch will add another 75-100 lbs. And remember, those kids are packing on extra pounds every day! You need a bigger truck, IMHO.

With 3 kids, dogs and wife, a bigger truck would let you get a bigger TT, too!!
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Old 12-02-2017, 12:25 PM   #3
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Ha! Wish that were an option but the wife drives the truck too. The deal was I could get rid of a minivan if I got a 1/2 ton. She doesn't like driving 3/4, 1 ton trucks.
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Old 12-02-2017, 12:39 PM   #4
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As rockfordroo says you should be using the GVWR weights to calculate the maximum trailer size for your truck. If you are willing to order new an F-150 with the 3.5L Ecoboost, max tow and heavy duty payload package should get you another 500 lbs or more for payload. As I said though you will likely have to order as both max tow and HDPP on the same truck on a dealers lot is rare.
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Old 12-02-2017, 12:48 PM   #5
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Great tip guys, I will definitely use the GVWR of the trailer as a guideline. With that said, I'll look for trailers with GVWR in the 4500-5000 range.
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Old 12-02-2017, 12:51 PM   #6
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Great tip guys, I will definitely use the GVWR of the trailer as a guideline. With that said, I'll look for trailers with GVWR in the 4500-5000 range.
According to calculations you were given in post #2 you will be well over your weight rating with a trailer that size.
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Old 12-02-2017, 01:20 PM   #7
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Ha! Wish that were an option but the wife drives the truck too. The deal was I could get rid of a minivan if I got a 1/2 ton. She doesn't like driving 3/4, 1 ton trucks.
When was the last she drove a 3/4? I just replaced an '11 Silverado 1500 with a '17 2500HD. Length and width are the same. Height is greater as the new truck is a 4x4. Even my wife has remarked how well the 2500 rides.
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Old 12-02-2017, 01:31 PM   #8
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My DW will begrudgingly drive my F250. Her daily driver is a Toyota RAV4 so there’s a huge difference for her.

If you can find a TT you like that’s suitable for a F150 with the heavy duty payload pkg. she’ll be happier. That’s assuming you can afford that truck at the same time. It’ll be very difficult to find a used F150 with the HD payload pkg.
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Great tip guys, I will definitely use the GVWR of the trailer as a guideline. With that said, I'll look for trailers with GVWR in the 4500-5000 range.

Since a full tank of fuel is already included in the curb weight, you shouldn't count fuel against your payload. Another poster mentioned 75-100 lbs for the WD hitch counting against payload, but a properly set up hitch will transfer at least this much weigh back to the trailer's axles, which cancels out the weight of the hitch from your payload calculation.

A 5000 lb GVW trailer at 13% tongue weight is 650 lbs. IMO you should be able to stay at or just under your payload with a trailer of this weight. A more detailed breakdown of exactly how much weight you are putting in the TV would be needed to say with more certainty. Those of us that have towed travel trailers with 1/2 tons usually have to carefully manage weights to stay within specs.
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That's great news. I did not realize a full tank of gas was already counted for.
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