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10-12-2019, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Oaklevel
Its a preference thing or need. I highly recommend if nothing else limited slip.
Years ago I saw a 4x2 Dodge with limited slip go where the 4x4s were having trouble.
I have never had an issue needing more than 2 wheel drive with limited slip but........ if we move to the farm I will probably rethink that.
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That must have been operator error. 4x4 Chevy and GMC pickups all come with a locking differential and I wouldn't be surprised if Ford and Ram were the same. I guarantee you I will go further and will have fewer problems with my 4x4 over any 2WD.
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10-12-2019, 01:32 PM
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Location: Alaska
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Originally Posted by itat
Frank, how much extra would it cost to upgrade to a 1 ton SRW 4x4 so you get the extra payload capacity you want?
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That's what I would be looking at. If payload capacity is going to be that close, just go with a one ton.
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10-12-2019, 01:34 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: California
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Originally Posted by HangDiver
Moved to Florida recently and have a couple acres of lawn. While backing my trailer into the back yard my rear tires started spinning in a wet rain soaked muddy area. I used 4x4 to get it the rest of way into a parking spot and not tear up the yard.
Never thought I'd need 4x4 after leaving Colorado. Only took a couple months to find out otherwise. That said, as long as you have the right tools for the job I can see not wanting a 4x4 if you're certain to be on pavement or roads with good traction.
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I think I would save the couple thousand dollars and wait until the grass dried out.
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10-12-2019, 02:24 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Originally Posted by Jeff from Burlington Ont
I live in Canada. My last TV was a Custom order F150 4 x 2, max tow econoboost. I traded in at 140,000k with 30,000 towing a 5th wheel When I Custom ordered a 4x2 dually F350 diesel in 2017 And have bone through 2 winters. I could not justify the extra cost of 4 x 4
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Up here in Canada it sure makes getting to the ice house easy in August, although a good set of tires with the right mindset and you’re good to go.
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10-12-2019, 03:47 PM
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Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Texas Hill Country
Posts: 10
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I have had an F250, and several F350s, my current truck is a F350 and the first that I bought without 4 wheel drive. In all my previous trucks that had 4 wheel drive I used it a few times just to see that it still worked but living in South Texas have not had the need of 4 wheel drive. Saving the money and the weight has worked out well for me. Another thing that convinced me to go with 4X2 was that the 4X4 has a higher bed height which I did not want pulling a 5th wheel.
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10-12-2019, 04:08 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Athens
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When we had our fifth wheel we pulled it with a F250 4x4. Despite living in Northeast Ontario the only time DH ever used 4wd was in Florida pulling a diesel pusher who was stuck in the mud in a campground. We also found it to be tall and a good climb into the cab.
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10-12-2019, 04:17 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 327
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AlaskaErik
That must have been operator error. 4x4 Chevy and GMC pickups all come with a locking differential and I wouldn't be surprised if Ford and Ram were the same. I guarantee you I will go further and will have fewer problems with my 4x4 over any 2WD.
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You can definitely get a locking rear differential in the Ford. Knob on the dash to activate. I believe it may only be an option for 4x2 and not 4x4 though, not sure.
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10-12-2019, 04:39 PM
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Scoundrel
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Montrose, Colorado
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Quote:
Originally Posted by babock
I think I would save the couple thousand dollars and wait until the grass dried out.
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Any you suppose I only use the truck to drive around my yard?
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10-12-2019, 04:39 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SecretSquirrel
You can definitely get a locking rear differential in the Ford. Knob on the dash to activate. I believe it may only be an option for 4x2 and not 4x4 though, not sure.
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Our F-150 has a locking rear and its a 4x4
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10-12-2019, 04:42 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HangDiver
Any you suppose I only use the truck to drive around my yard?
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No...I suppose you take it skiing in the mountains of Florida
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10-12-2019, 06:35 PM
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#31
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Pensacola, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by itat
I’ve needed to engage the 4x4 on wet grass when towing. I don’t use it often but wouldn’t want to be without it.
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Same here.
Regarding a RWD with a limited slip differential, they can be really scary when the LSD cuts in. Rather than having one rear wheel loose traction and the other having some grip with a standard "Open" differential, LSD spins both wheels at the traction limit, and you loose all side force traction at the rear. Spin city. Add this to the already poor rear traction of an unloaded RWD truck, and you better have really great skid recovery skills.
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10-12-2019, 06:48 PM
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#32
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 327
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Quote:
Originally Posted by babock
Our F-150 has a locking rear and its a 4x4
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Are you able to pull out on the 4 wheel drive selector knob to lock the differential while in two wheel drive? Just asking. I thought I had ordered the locking rear but then thought maybe I didn’t because it wasn’t an option with 4 wheel drive.
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10-12-2019, 07:07 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluepill
Same here.
Regarding a RWD with a limited slip differential, they can be really scary when the LSD cuts in. Rather than having one rear wheel loose traction and the other having some grip with a standard "Open" differential, LSD spins both wheels at the traction limit, and you loose all side force traction at the rear. Spin city. Add this to the already poor rear traction of an unloaded RWD truck, and you better have really great skid recovery skills.
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Eh, I dont know about that. An open diff will spin the tire with the least traction. Thos is because they inherently deliver an equal amount of torque to both wheels. One wheel on ice and one wheel on pavement- the ice wheel will spin and the pavement wheel will do nothing. A LS (post) diff will transmit more torque to the wheel with more resistance (traction) up to a certain point. If one wheel is in the air, it may not deliver enough torque to the traction wheel depending on the clutch springs. A torque bias diff will act much like a LS but does not use clutch plates and springs.
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10-12-2019, 07:13 PM
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#34
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SecretSquirrel
Are you able to pull out on the 4 wheel drive selector knob to lock the differential while in two wheel drive? Just asking. I thought I had ordered the locking rear but then thought maybe I didn’t because it wasn’t an option with 4 wheel drive.
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Yes I am. Just went out and tried it.
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10-12-2019, 07:20 PM
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Join Date: May 2019
Location: Lakeville, mn
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How do you like the flex roof
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10-12-2019, 07:32 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 327
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Quote:
Originally Posted by babock
Yes I am. Just went out and tried it.
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Thanks. Gonna have to find my papers from when I ordered the truck to check now.
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10-12-2019, 07:52 PM
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Member
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Parrish Florida
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Quote:
Originally Posted by babock
No...I suppose you take it skiing in the mountains of Florida
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347 feet up is the best mountain we can muster around these parts.
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10-12-2019, 07:58 PM
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#38
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Member
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Parrish Florida
Posts: 46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluepill
Same here.
Regarding a RWD with a limited slip differential, they can be really scary when the LSD cuts in. Rather than having one rear wheel loose traction and the other having some grip with a standard "Open" differential, LSD spins both wheels at the traction limit, and you loose all side force traction at the rear. Spin city. Add this to the already poor rear traction of an unloaded RWD truck, and you better have really great skid recovery skills.
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Worst rear end spin out in 40 years of driving was in a 2wd with limited slip going up a steep wet incline around 25mph. in a split second the rear end was way over the yellow line. Knew the feeling and eventually caught it. Would have much preferred the right wheel spinning in a straight line without the LSD.
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10-12-2019, 08:39 PM
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#39
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Retired Panpsychist
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Western Massachusetts
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The only thing I’d add is to think about where and when your rig will be used.
If you will be restricting your travels to southern states only, and will be traveling in those states during the months when a freak snow storm is impossible, you’ll not have a problem with a 4x2.
However, if there is a chance your journeys will take you to more northern climes in the late fall or early spring, a 4x4 may be a better choice.
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10-12-2019, 08:46 PM
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#40
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2017
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Use my 4x4 every winter here in Nebraska. Just used it today taking my neighbor down at our cabin to his deer hunting spot where we picked up tree stand he wasn't using. Having the cabin....my 4x4 gets a lot of use. I have them serviced every spring.
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