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Old 10-15-2015, 02:16 PM   #31
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Can understand it with regular vehicles, but not with an rv which is much larger and easier to see and most folks are very much aware that they don't travel at high speeds. When I see one if I'm not towing, I get over in another lane at least a 1/2 to 1 mile before I get to them. Same with semi's. I also steer clear of rvs going 70 mph knowing they are susceptible to erratic things happening to them at that rate of speed.
Very true. Also true is the fact that John Q. Public has forgotten that we need to drive as far ahead as we can see to take note of slower vehicles, obstacles, lane shifts, etc.
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Old 10-15-2015, 05:09 PM   #32
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Only 2100 lbs payload.
Confirmed on a scale, by myself.


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Whether it is a diesel or not, has no bearing on payload weight ratings, but 2100 just seems a bit low. I've got a F350 gas SRW 4X2, and it's payload is 3720 lbs. with a max towing capacity for fifth wheels, at 15,900lbs.

But how this relates to the OP's question having a Tundra with a 5.7L engine, and a whether his truck would handle his new RV, I'm not sure I follow.
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Old 10-15-2015, 05:50 PM   #33
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Whether it is a diesel or not, has no bearing on payload weight ratings, but 2100 just seems a bit low. I've got a F350 gas SRW 4X2, and it's payload is 3720 lbs. with a max towing capacity for fifth wheels, at 15,900lbs.

But how this relates to the OP's question having a Tundra with a 5.7L engine, and a whether his truck would handle his new RV, I'm not sure I follow.
It does have a direct effect on payload ratings. 2500 gvwr is 10,000 lbs. Period. A diesel engine is 800-1000lbs more than a gas V8. That's 800-1000lbs less payload.

Kenny Kustom listed his 2500 diesel payload at 2100lbs.

My gas 2500 C.C. S.B. stickers at 3108. I have the larger payload, even closer to your 3500 SRW payload than his.

So... OP gets a 2500 diesel. Let's say same 2100 payload as Kenny. That 5er has1200 lb empty hitch weight, equaling 15% of its empty weight. So probably 1500 loaded. Add his guses of 590 for hitch and his family... sitting at 2090lbs of 2100lbs payload.

Hence my original statement of pushing the payload of a 2500 diesel.
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Old 10-15-2015, 06:19 PM   #34
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On paper, it has no bearing on the weight rating. In reality, a 2500 diesel will handle more weight and payload than a 2500 gasser. For example, and you can check this out, a 2500 GMC diesel is the same as a 3500 GMC diesel with the exception of the additional rear springs and the rims/tires to handle standard 265 tires (vs245 on a 2500). Moreover the rear axles on a 2500 diesel is the same as the rear axle on a 3500. (rated at 10,000) Not true with a 2500 gasser with axles rated of just north of 6,000 lbs. That's why you see many 2500 diesels with airbags and beefer tires towing what appears to be overloaded, with no apparent problem. A gmc 2500 duramax will handle 2500-3000 in the bed all day long. Where am I wrong? (for the record, I don't tow a fifth wheel)
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Old 10-15-2015, 07:03 PM   #35
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The 2100# is quite accurate. My 2014 RAM comes with a 2400# payload maxing the truck at 10,000lb. I am comfortable knowing the rear axle and drive live are identical to a 3500 with the exception of springs. On the scales empty , my rear axle weight comes in at 3200 lbs., 2800 below max rating of the axle.
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Old 10-15-2015, 07:04 PM   #36
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The paper weight rating is the weight rating regardless of helper springs or airbags. Their manufacturer GVWR has not changed. What they do is no different than the OP putting on airbags and calling it ok.
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Old 10-15-2015, 07:23 PM   #37
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Whether it is a diesel or not, has no bearing on payload weight ratings, but 2100 just seems a bit low. I've got a F350 gas SRW 4X2, and it's payload is 3720 lbs. with a max towing capacity for fifth wheels, at 15,900lbs.

But how this relates to the OP's question having a Tundra with a 5.7L engine, and a whether his truck would handle his new RV, I'm not sure I follow.


The engine has everything to do with payload.
The 2500 gas and diesel have the same 10k gvwr.

As others posted, the CUMMINS weighs a lot more than the gas.
Therefore, less available payload.

I put mine on the scale, 1/2 tank and without me in it.
7919.
About 2100 lbs payload.


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Old 10-15-2015, 08:11 PM   #38
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1475 payload rating is an awfully light truck. If you keep the trailer empty, and leave the wife home, you might be ok. Time for a bigger truck. If you like the Tundras, the newer ones have much more capacity than earlier body style
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Old 10-15-2015, 09:22 PM   #39
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Whether it is a diesel or not, has no bearing on payload weight ratings, but 2100 just seems a bit low. I've got a F350 gas SRW 4X2, and it's payload is 3720 lbs. with a max towing capacity for fifth wheels, at 15,900lbs.

But how this relates to the OP's question having a Tundra with a 5.7L engine, and a whether his truck would handle his new RV, I'm not sure I follow.
I, like others, disagree...check out the truck manufacturers specs, diesel payload is less when you compare them side by side, due to the weight of the engine and its parts.
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Old 10-16-2015, 02:38 PM   #40
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I stand corrected on the payload and diesel vs. gas subject. This could make for a great discussion in much more detail but it probably already has been on another post.

I do agree with Sknight and dieselguy as well as ependydad, and that the original poster should go and have his truck and rv weighed and get the true facts of both vehicles. After that he should go out and enjoy some RVing.
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