Post Your 1/2 Ton's Specs

[madmaxmutt]

Originally Posted by The Big Toe

I haven't seen the manufacturer even mention a WDH except to say that when you're pulling over 5,000lbs you need one

I am not a weight policeman by any means, but you are taking unstated falsehoods and leading people to believe they are true. Clearly W/D is not taken into account with any of the receiver manufacturers rated weights.

You are clearly reading what you want to read or not reading the material at all. No receiver manufacturer rates their W/D parts for the weight the way you implied it was rated.

As an example, Curt says: "TW - The Tongue Weight is the amount of the trailer's weight that is placed on the hitch ball by the trailer coupler. (To measure the tongue weight, use either a commercial scale or a bathroom scale with the coupler at towing height. When using a bathroom scale with heavier tongue weights, use the method shown and multiply the scale reading by three. "

None of the vehicle manufacturers hold your view either. As an example, Ford says: "Tongue Load or Fifth Wheel King Pin Weight – refers to the amount
of the weight that a trailer pushes down on a trailer hitch." That means the dead weight.

etrailer.com tells you how to measure tongue weight in relation to selecting a W/D hitch. https://www.etrailer.com/faq-weightd....aspx#Choosing
In this case, the TW is actually more than the stand alone tongue weight of the trailer and includes weight behind the truck axle for the simple reason, that weight also has to be taken into account to be distributed by the mechanical system purchased.

And while your example of the 400 lbs moved is good for the truck suspension, you are simply confusing the fact that the hitch/receiver has it's own rated (and marked) weight limits that stand alone.

[D. J. Schuler]

2011 F150 XLT Supercab 163" wheel base, Eco-boost 3.5L, 3.73, 4 WD
8,200# GVWR package
Max Tow (trailer sway control, mirrors, TT brake controller) 11,200
Heavy Duty Payload package (2,393 payload, 7 lug, E rated tires)
GAWR front 4,050, rear 4,800
GCWR 17,100
CAT Scale TV 6,260 (passenger 182, 5r hitch 128, tool box 20, full tank), actual payload is 2,268. I weighed on another scale empty bed, full tank and passenger - 6,050. according to the manual payload includes fuel - full tank could be over 200.

[itat]

I'll re-post my original statement as to why I started this thread in order to get this back on topic....

"I thought I would start a thread for members towing with a 1/2 ton to post up their TV's factory specs to see how much they vary and what members are towing using those specs.

This thread is not intended to start a debate about whether anyone is within specs or crazily overloaded....Just to see the variety of 1/2 ton specs out there."

If you can contribute to the topic, great. If you want to go off topic, please start another thread.

I'm looking to see specs like:
- GVWR
- GCWR
- GAWR for front and rear axles
- max. towing weight rating
- max. payload rating
- CCC

Also, things like cab size and wheelbase length since they seem to impact the specs.

[ridersfan]

Speaking to tongue weight, each and every GM truck is called out as maxing at 500 lbs when dead weight (no wdh used) and then calls out a max when using a wdh.

For instance, my 2016 Chev Silverado 1500 Crew Cab 2LT 4WD:
3950# Front
3950# Rear
7200# GVWR
15000# GCWR
Max dead weight hitch tongue 500, trailer 5000
Max wdh hitch tongue 1092, trailer 9100

I pull a 2013 Grey Wolf 26DBH that if my memory serves is about 7000 wet and about 650-700 tongue weight, and I use a basic wdh with bars on chains

Even a dual rear wheel diesel with a GVWR of 13,500lbs has the same 500/5000 dead weight rating when no wdh is used. I expect pretty well every OEM has that called out someplace... I'm a dealer so I see all the fine print from GM

[itat]

I suspect the spec'd hitch weight is dependent upon the class of the hitch installed which is why I haven't asked for that spec. Owners can install a beefier aftermarket hitch but wouldn't install beefier axles and swap out the frame which are the contributors to the GVWR.

[Catsgot9]

2014 F150 XLT CC 4x4

GVWR: 7650
GCWR: 17100
FGARW: 3750
RGARW: 4050

5.5 bed
3.73 Gears
1866 lbs payload

When scaled with my trailer loaded ready to go camping. Plus wife and kid in truck. 14680 lb total gross weight.

[asquared]

The site team has had to do a cleanup here. Please stay on topic of posting specs and not debating tongue weights or which truck would be better. This is not a can I tow this or should I tow this thread. This us an informational thread only. Also, please keep all comments civil. The site team doesn't want to have to close yet another truck thread down.

[Time-Travelers]

2016 Ford F-150 XLT 4X4 SuperCab, 3.5L V6 Ecoboost,
163.7" Wheelbase 3.73 Axle
Max. towing package; 11500
HD payload package; 2710
GCWR 17100
GVWR 7850
FGAWR 3750
RGAWR 4800
CCC 2642

[uhduh camping]

2014 Nissan Titan 5.6L SV CC 4X4 Big tow package
Gross combined 15,100
Max tow 9,300
Tongue weight 930
GVWR 7,200
GFAWR 3849
GRAWR 4200
Axle 3.31

I have since sold this truck but still had the numbers.

[f5moab]

Originally Posted by ridersfan

Speaking to tongue weight, each and every GM truck is called out as maxing at 500 lbs when dead weight (no wdh used) and then calls out a max when using a wdh.

For instance, my 2016 Chev Silverado 1500 Crew Cab 2LT 4WD:
3950# Front
3950# Rear
7200# GVWR
15000# GCWR
Max dead weight hitch tongue 500, trailer 5000
Max wdh hitch tongue 1092, trailer 9100

I pull a 2013 Grey Wolf 26DBH that if my memory serves is about 7000 wet and about 650-700 tongue weight, and I use a basic wdh with bars on chains

Even a dual rear wheel diesel with a GVWR of 13,500lbs has the same 500/5000 dead weight rating when no wdh is used. I expect pretty well every OEM has that called out someplace... I'm a dealer so I see all the fine print from GM

I'm confused. My 2015 Silverado 1500 LTZ CC 4WD owner manual states:
1500 Weight-Carrying 363 kg (800 lb)
1500 Weight-Distributing 544 kg (1,200 lb)

And that matches the sticker on the hitch, and that matches what GM engineering told me in regard to a 2013 Silverado, when I contacted them due to a different spec on the hitch vs. the owner's manual.

SPECS:

• 5.3L V8
• 6-Spd Trans
• 4-Door Crew Cab
• Overall length: 230.03
• Wheelbase: 143.5
• Axle: 3.42
• GCWR: 15000 lbs.
• GAWR for front and rear axles: 3900 lbs.
• max. towing weight rating: 9200 lbs
• max. payload rating: 1662 lbs

[Blaster 84]

2013 Supercab, 6 1/2' bed

GCWR 16,900
GVWR 7,500
Towing 11,480
FAWR. 3,600
RAWR. 4,050
Tiress. 4,542

[jgroff]

2011 ram 1500 quad cab 4x4
5.7hemi 3.92
Max tow - 10050 lbs
Gvwr - 6700
Gfawr- 3900
Grawr-3900
Gcwr- 15500
Yellow sticker - 1400 I think
Scaled capacity with a full tank and me in the truck -1100
Pro pride 3p hitch

Trailer is a sob kz spree lx 322bhs.
7200 dry 8200 ready to roll
Combined I am at 14000 lbs

[Tyler_13]

Oldest truck here

1999 Chevy Silverado 1500 ext cab short box. 4x4, Z71, 5.3L with roadmaster active suspension assist kit.

GVWR - 6400 lb

FAWR - 3925

RAWR - 3750


The manual says max towing is 7500 lbs. Max hitch with WD is 1000. Not sure what the GCWR is as the truck might be to old for that spec. The max standard payload is 1700.

[ksmith954]

2015 Ford F150 4x4 Supercab 3.5 Ecoboost
GCWR 16000 #
Max trailer weight 10500 #
GVWR 7050 #
Max payload spec sheet 2170 #
Door Sticker 1886 #
GAWR R 3800#
GAWR F 3600#
Weight of truck (Full Tank 36 gal.) 5180# CAT
30 Surveyor tt loaded 5860 # cat

I previously towed with a 2013 F150 5.0--Towed well but no match for the 3.5 Ecoboost- Max Torque band is higher at much lower rpm's

[itat]

Originally Posted by ksmith954

2015 Ford F150 4x4 Supercab 3.5 Ecoboost
GCWR 16000 #
Max trailer weight 10500 #
GVWR 7050 #
Max payload spec sheet 2170 #
Door Sticker 1886 #
GAWR R 3800#
GAWR F 3600#
Weight of truck (Full Tank 36 gal.) 5180# CAT
30 Surveyor tt loaded 5860 # cat

I previously towed with a 2013 F150 5.0--Towed well but no match for the 3.5 Ecoboost- Max Torque band is higher at much lower rpm's

Is that the new F-150 with the aluminum body?

[ksmith954]

Correct

[PVFD88]

2015 GMC Sierra K1500 Crew Cab w/Max Tow Package

5.3L, 3.73 axle, 6 speed auto with integrated brake controller
GVWR - #7600
GAWR (f) - #3950
GAWR (r) - #4300
GCWR - #16,700
Max tow - #10,900
Max Payload - #1940

Picking up 2016 Coachmen Freedom Express 292BHDSLE on Saturday.

[CNYCamper]

Update to Post #28


My post and specs. were for my 2014 Silverado. I traded to a 2016 over the week-end and updated my signature. The post shows the new truck with the old specs. Updated are:


2016 Silverado Z71, double cab 4x4, 3.42, 6 speed auto, 5.3L, Max. Trailer weight: 9,200; Max. payload: 1,787.

[doc73]

Originally Posted by CNYCamper

Update to Post #28


My post and specs. were for my 2014 Silverado. I traded to a 2016 over the week-end and updated my signature. The post shows the new truck with the old specs. Updated are:


2016 Silverado Z71, double cab 4x4, 3.42, 6 speed auto, 5.3L, Max. Trailer weight: 9,200; Max. payload: 1,787.

Nice, a little less trailer rating but otherwise seems to have stayed the same.

[RollingDownTheHighway]

Originally Posted by CNYCamper

Update to Post #28


My post and specs. were for my 2014 Silverado. I traded to a 2016 over the week-end and updated my signature. The post shows the new truck with the old specs. Updated are:


2016 Silverado Z71, double cab 4x4, 3.42, 6 speed auto, 5.3L, Max. Trailer weight: 9,200; Max. payload: 1,787.

looks like the tow rating drop for chevy's went across the board. nothing less, though, nice selection on the new ride. congrats!!