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Old 02-24-2016, 02:31 PM   #21
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Funny you brought this up. I was worried about the same thing with my setup. I came across an article from ford, but can't seem to find it at the moment, that said the factory installed controller will only apply the amount of brake needed to stop the trailer based off of the speed of the truck.
You may be on the right track. The integrated brake controller does just that-integrates the trailer brakes with the TV brakes. The first video below is on the Ford controller. I have included the 2nd GM brake controller video because it gives you specific instructions on how to do it. The GM also tells you to do this while you are towing. Ford would likely be the same method.



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Old 02-24-2016, 02:40 PM   #22
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Thanks for the videos. The Chevy video indicates that lock-up may not happen with a heavy trailer. I think that is the situation and at that point I'm left with assuming that a maximum gain setting is sufficient.
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Old 02-24-2016, 02:41 PM   #23
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Very interesting thread. When I bought my first Ford Superduty, it was a 2011 F250 4x2, and I had a Durango fiver that weighed aprox 8000 lbs. The Truck integrated brake controller would definitely lock the trailer brakes at a gain of 7-8. I usually ran with the gain set at 6.
So when I bought the Silverback that was a substantially heavier trailer, the same truck would not lock the trailer brakes even with a gain of 10, although the brakes were definitely working well. I was kicking myself for not having had the dealer address that before I pulled out, but I figured it was just a brake adjustment.
So, late last year, I traded up to a 4x4 F350. Exact same situation....even with a gain setting of 10, the trailer brakes would not lock up. When I manually squeeze the controller brake lever the brakes would work and work well, but would not lock up.
I have suspected it had something to do with the auto adjusting brakes on the camper, but not certain.
I was interested in CWSWine's comments about the settings in the DIC. What is a DIC and where is that located? I hate to plead ignorant, but in this case I am.
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Old 02-24-2016, 03:03 PM   #24
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The DIC is the Driver Information Center and is located in front of the driver. Scroll down to the "Settings" then "Driver Assist" and there are a couple settings dealing with trailer towing. These should be set prior to towing. I'm not sure if F150 has this screen but my 2015 F350 does.
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Old 02-24-2016, 03:15 PM   #25
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When pulling an empty cargo trailer, I have to nearly turn off the gain because the trailer wheels lock up. Loaded, the gain is 5-6 without locking up.

It all has to do with friction where the tires meet the road and the road surface. With a light load, the brake pads have the advantage of grabbing and locking causing the tires to break traction. Put more weight on the tires, the more the pads have to work to break tire traction, but the brake pads still have the upper hand. Finally, adding enough weight, the brakes will slow the roll, but will burn the pads before the tires. Moisture or loose surface can change those ratios.
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Just a after thought - When I went to set mine towing up in the DIC the brake setting was set to "Light" and the Trailer Sway Control" was also set to "OFF". So if you haven't check it you might want to. I don't know about other models trucks but might want to look and see if you have those settings.
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I don't think the F150 has those settings, but I'm going to look to make sure. I do know that the sway control is turned on, it scared the poo out of me when a flat nosed tour bus passed me on the interstate running probably 80mph (him not me). Also, I thought that I read the statement mentioned earlier in this thread that on heavy trailers, you may not be able to lock the wheels. But I've slept since then.
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Okay CW. I was having a brain poot. However, I just hooked my truck/trailer up and nowhere can I find different settings for light, medium, heavy. But I will be making a short trip soon, and I'll have more time to check it out. I don't think I can turn the sway control off.
Back to the manual.....

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I have a 13 F250 and our 5th will lock the wheels.
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On both my trailers, I cannot get the brakes to lock up on my 2014 F-250. Brakes were checked and properly adjusted, and if I pull the tongue emergency cord, the brakes do lock up. The dealer told me that my truck has a proportional brake controller, that will not lock up but still is working properly. Apparently the truck senses speed and rate of deceleration when using the brake controller.
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