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Old 11-07-2018, 01:25 PM   #1
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Question about transmission coolers

Hi folks. So I own a 2016 Chrysler Town & Country S model. The owner's manual says it is rated to tow 3600lbs. The dry weight of my new travel trailer is 2900lbs.

The vehicle has a built in transmission cooler. I wanted to add an additional third party cooler. My mechanic said there is one he can put in but he is concerned that I will be voiding my warranty if something were to happen and Chrysler saw the vehicle modified. I am still under the original 3 year warranty plus I purchased a lifetime Mopar warranty on the vehicle.

My question is: Do you think the standard equipment on the vehicle is adequate and I should forego putting additional equipment in. How many of you tow trailers this way? Have any of you added third party coolers and then needed to make a claim under the vehicle warranty?

Advice would be appreciated.

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Old 11-07-2018, 01:38 PM   #2
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That's a tough one. If something happens to the transmission then they could deny your warranty due to the aftermarket modification, but the rest of the warranty would still be intact.

As for the service contract (Mopar Warranty), read the fine print and see if there are any exclusions about modifications done to the vehicle. A lot of times there are.

Having said that, once the RV is loaded and ready to camp, it's going to be past the tow rating of the vehicle. Adding a cooler to the vehicle won't increase the tow rating.
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Old 11-07-2018, 01:50 PM   #3
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I don't believe I will be over the limit. If I have 700lbs leeway to stay within the 3600lb limit, I don't think I will have that much gear. Why do you way I will be over the limit?
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To begin, the dry weight number refers to the TT as it came off the assembly line stripped down with nothing on it. Add options, batteries, propane and you've already lost a chunk of the 700lbs that you are counting on. Add cargo, passengers, supplies, ect. into your van and you lose additional payload capacity.

Dry weights are ficticious numbers. Use the TT GVWR for more accurate numbers that your van will have to "carry".
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Old 11-07-2018, 02:12 PM   #5
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If you aren't hauling water, you should be able to manage the weight. What you will want to watch is the tongue weight. That 3200# tow limit probably comes with a 320# tongue limit. We bought our first TT last Oct, and the loaded tongue weight on ours surprised me. I would suggest, you load up the trailer, throw everybody in the van that you normally take camping and find a nearby CAT scale. One pass with the trailer hooked up and one pass w/o the trailer will tell you if you are under specs for the Town and Country. Then you can decide what adjustments you need to make.
Until then you are going to get a lot of speculation from the forum gang
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As HangDiver said, dry weight doesn't include a lot of the necessities such as battery, propane, water, etc., and it's easy to underestimate how much stuff you'll put in the RV to go camping. Also the published dry weight isn't what the unit will actually weigh as it leaves the factory. There will be a yellow sticker on the unit that shows the weight as it left the factory and I bet it's a lot higher than the published dry weight.

If you think a transmission cooler will help you, you could see if the vehicle dealer has one that they can install. That way it shouldn't affect your warranty.
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Old 11-07-2018, 03:05 PM   #7
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robbecky, as others have said, you are apparently using fictional dry weights, which are never real world numbers.
Seeing that you bought a E Pro 16bh, I see where you've made the biggest mistake that a aux trans cooler isn't going to help.
That trailer's fictional "dry" tongue weight of 420lbs, already exceeds the max 360lbs tongue of your minivan, with nothing in the trailer.
http://www.forestriverinc.com/produc...elID=3889#Main
And since it's a single axle, it will put more weight on the tongue, once you add the weights of options, a battery, water and cargo.
You've bought a trailer that already exceeds the specs of your minivan.
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Hi folks. So I own a 2016 Chrysler Town & Country S model. The owner's manual says it is rated to tow 3600lbs. The dry weight of my new travel trailer is 2900lbs.

The vehicle has a built in transmission cooler. I wanted to add an additional third party cooler. My mechanic said there is one he can put in but he is concerned that I will be voiding my warranty if something were to happen and Chrysler saw the vehicle modified. I am still under the original 3 year warranty plus I purchased a lifetime Mopar warranty on the vehicle.

My question is: Do you think the standard equipment on the vehicle is adequate and I should forego putting additional equipment in. How many of you tow trailers this way? Have any of you added third party coolers and then needed to make a claim under the vehicle warranty?

Advice would be appreciated.

Rob

I have the same year but the Limited model. As others have said the dry weight is fictitious. The TT weighs more than that before you put clothes, food, toys, etc in it. Just a guess I would say it weighs 3100 - 3300 pounds before personal items. You will run out of cargo carrying capacity of the T&C before meeting the combined vehicle weight.

You want to look at the yellow and white Tire and Loading Information sticker located on the drivers door pillar. If yours is like mine the load is 1150#. You need to deduct the weight of the hitch, cargo and passengers from the "Should Never Exceed" limit on that sticker. Then, you need to subtract 10 - 15% for TT tongue weight. Then, on top of that you need to subtract the weight of the personal belongings you put in the front of the TT. Pay attention to bikendan's post (#7).

You are NOT going to like how it handles the weight.

Below is a picture of my Tire and Loading Information sticker. FYI, some T&C's don't have a spare tire. Though mine has a donut spare under the front seats at the centerline.
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Old 11-07-2018, 05:52 PM   #9
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Back to the ORIGINAL QUESTION: Wait till you tow it to see how the temps are. Also, go see the dealer, maybe they have a larger cooler as an option already. They might have to install it, but they likely wouldn't void your warranty because of it.
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Old 11-07-2018, 06:00 PM   #10
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If you have a lifetime warranty why worry? You will probably be replacing the transmission 2 or 3 times anyway.
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