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Old 12-05-2018, 11:56 PM   #41
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Question for Andersen Ultimate 5th Connection Users

Overload springs I did swap my jounce bumpers with a set of summos since the truck was sitting on the stockers-sagging in the rear after hitching the truck

Goose ball: tightening the top bolt made mine solid as a rock. Did u push the Andersen all the way forward before tightening?
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Old 12-06-2018, 06:02 AM   #42
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I had some chucking on mine. I talked to Andersen twice and they sent me a shorter tube because they thought it might be bottoming out in my case. That solved my problem.

I found that talking with Andersen was the right route to go. Excellent help.

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Old 12-06-2018, 11:29 AM   #43
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I had some chucking on mine. I talked to Andersen twice and they sent me a shorter tube because they thought it might be bottoming out in my case. That solved my problem.
I found that talking with Andersen was the right route to go. Excellent help.
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Just curious but do you happen to use a rubber bed mat such that the Andersen sits on top of the mat? I do and it was the mat that added just enough height that it kept the center column from being able to tighten against the bolt. What was happening is that as I tightened the top bolt and it pulled the column up and the lower pin/rod would tighten against the outer sleeve. This left just enough play as to get some slight buck.

As you may now know, when they send you a shorter sleeve they also send a modified "sheared" pin/rod. Now when I tighten the upper bolt, the inner sleeve pulls all the way into the outer sleeve. That sheared pin goes up into the sleeve and as a bonus you no longer need to mess with the safety clip since the pin/rod becomes restricted by the walls of the outer sleeve.

Man that was a lot harder to write than it is to see ;-). Bottom line is if you use a thick rubber bed mat, be sure to ask Andersen for the short inner column and sheared pin. It's free.
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Old 12-06-2018, 01:16 PM   #44
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No bed mat or rug for me. Just sitting on top of the spray in bedliner.
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I had some chucking on mine. I talked to Andersen twice and they sent me a shorter tube because they thought it might be bottoming out in my case. That solved my problem.

I found that talking with Andersen was the right route to go. Excellent help.

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I will give them a call. Were you able to tell either visually or by some other means that the tube was too long?
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Old 12-06-2018, 05:01 PM   #46
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Nothing that I could tell. I made sure to tighten and torque when the full pin weight was on the hitch. Make certain you do that first.

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Old 12-11-2018, 09:03 AM   #47
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First, I have not mounted mine at this point. I just "hook" it to the pin box. Has stayed there with no issues. But I have the same "surging" that the OP discussed. Followed installation instructions. Adjusted the ball lower as the trailer originally sat too high. The surging (I wouldn't call it clunking by any stretch as it is smooth) usually only occurs under acceleration. As mine come with the MorRyde pin box that has the sliding plate, I attributed the "surging" to that. You can see the rub marks as the plate is doing its designed function. I just assumed the two designs may not be the best together as the Anderson is designed with a conventional pin box in mind. Am I off on this? I do thinnk I will call Anderson today and get some feedback.
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Just curious but do you happen to use a rubber bed mat such that the Andersen sits on top of the mat? I do and it was the mat that added just enough height that it kept the center column from being able to tighten against the bolt. What was happening is that as I tightened the top bolt and it pulled the column up and the lower pin/rod would tighten against the outer sleeve. This left just enough play as to get some slight buck.

As you may now know, when they send you a shorter sleeve they also send a modified "sheared" pin/rod. Now when I tighten the upper bolt, the inner sleeve pulls all the way into the outer sleeve. That sheared pin goes up into the sleeve and as a bonus you no longer need to mess with the safety clip since the pin/rod becomes restricted by the walls of the outer sleeve.

Man that was a lot harder to write than it is to see ;-). Bottom line is if you use a thick rubber bed mat, be sure to ask Andersen for the short inner column and sheared pin. It's free.
I'm glad you shared that. I, too have what feels like a front to back surge when accelerating and going over certain bumps. Two weeks ago was my first 5th wheel experience and wasn't sure what to think of it. I also have a thick rubber mat under my hitch,,,,, I didn't want to scratch my new truck's spray in liner. I just looked at my set up; the lower pin that grabs the bed ball is over an inch below the tube of the hitch frame. I DO notice the upper ball has over 1/8" fore and aft movement. It's set with the pin in the middle hole. We're heading out Friday for our maiden camping trip in this new 5er. I am going to remove the mat for the trip and see if that helps. Any other thoughts from experienced users is always appreciated.
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Just curious but do you happen to use a rubber bed mat such that the Andersen sits on top of the mat? I do and it was the mat that added just enough height that it kept the center column from being able to tighten against the bolt. What was happening is that as I tightened the top bolt and it pulled the column up and the lower pin/rod would tighten against the outer sleeve. This left just enough play as to get some slight buck.

As you may now know, when they send you a shorter sleeve they also send a modified "sheared" pin/rod. Now when I tighten the upper bolt, the inner sleeve pulls all the way into the outer sleeve. That sheared pin goes up into the sleeve and as a bonus you no longer need to mess with the safety clip since the pin/rod becomes restricted by the walls of the outer sleeve.

Man that was a lot harder to write than it is to see ;-). Bottom line is if you use a thick rubber bed mat, be sure to ask Andersen for the short inner column and sheared pin. It's free.
Bill, how thick is your bed mat (if you've posted that, I missed it)?
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I use a 1/4" mat from Tractor Supply (cut it to fit) under my Andersen Ultimate. It has protected the bedliner from scratching so far, and I don't detect any movement. I do retorque the big bolt to 60 ft. lbs. after the full weight of the trailer is on the hitch and then tighten the two set bolts to 50 ft. lbs.

I have the Lippert 1621 HD pin box now, but may try the MorRyde pinbox in the spring. I think I've read that Andersen approves of this pin box for use with the hitch.
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