Question for the WDH experts

phillips · 06-03-2016, 02:35 PM

I'm running the Reese Dual Cam WDH. I need to get more weight transfer to the front of my TV but I'm already running the minimum required 5 links under tension. I also have my hitch tilted to the furthest setting towards the TT. Is there anything else I can do to get more weight to the front of TV? The reason I'm asking is that my TV seems to want to wonder ocasionly in the front, I'm assuming this is caused by not enough weight transfer to front. Cpl pics of my current set up.
TV is a 2016 F150 long box 3.5 Eco with max tow.
TT is a 2016 Coachmen Apex 300bhs.

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phillips · 06-03-2016, 02:37 PM

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phillips · 06-03-2016, 02:39 PM

Should also mention I have a 2" leveling kit installed on the front of TV, hoping this isn't my issue!! Also would air bags help with this issue?

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wrvond · 06-03-2016, 03:00 PM

Air bags are not going to shift any weight, they will only lift the rear up. Lifting the rear would also cause you to have to shorten your chains.
It looks to me like you have some pretty stiff bars on there already, so either you have a seriously heavy tongue, or you aren't starting out with the ball and coupler the same height.

OldCoot · 06-03-2016, 03:01 PM

Cinch it up to 4 links instead of 5.

phillips · 06-03-2016, 03:08 PM

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Cinch it up to 4 links instead of 5.

Thats what I wanted to do but everything I read says make sure you have no less then 5 links under tension. Do you have any experience or known of anyone running 4 links with the dual cam?

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Should also mention I have a 2" leveling kit installed on the front of TV, hoping this isn't my issue!! Also would air bags help with this issue?

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OldCoot · 06-03-2016, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by phillips

Thats what I wanted to do but everything I read says make sure you have no less then 5 links under tension. Do you have any experience or known of anyone running 4 links with the dual cam?

If 5 links is the minimum, then you will have to tilt the head more toward the trailer.

phillips · 06-03-2016, 03:24 PM

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If 5 links is the minimum, then you will have to tilt the head more toward the trailer.

It's tilted as far down towards the TT now ad it can. Would higher rated spring bars be a possible fix?

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Big Red and 30WR · 06-03-2016, 03:34 PM

Doesn`t look like your reese head tips back as far as mine does . Maybe because your is a lot newer. Bought mine new in 2000. Will be putting into service again soon . Going to swap my Equalizer out and they the reese . As far as helping you I think the head should tip back more giving you more tension on your bars.

phillips · 06-03-2016, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Red and 30WR

Doesn`t look like your reese head tips back as far as mine does . Maybe because your is a lot newer. Bought mine new in 2000. Will be putting into service again soon . Going to swap my Equalizer out and they the reese . As far as helping you I think the head should tip back more giving you more tension on your bars.

Not a great pic but this the adjustment thing that came with the hitch. It's currently set to 6/1 wich gives it the most tilt.

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thebrakeman · 06-03-2016, 03:46 PM

The question of whether you can/should transfer more weight should be based on measurement, not feel.
X = Front wheel well height with no trailer
Y = Front wheel well height with trailer attached, and WDH engaged
For anything less than a 3/4-ton truck, you want Y to be as close to X as possible (or equal) without actually being lower than stock height. If that's where you are, then you are optimized. Transferring more could put you over your front GAWR.

If Y is more than 1/4" higher than X, and you want to transfer more weight, you may not have the WDH rated high enough:
What is your actual loaded TW?
What is the TW rating on your Dual-Cam WDH?

phillips · 06-03-2016, 04:43 PM

That's what I have now is 1/4" higher in front then without TT hooked up.
I'm not sure about actual weight of TT . I know it's dry weight is 6000lbs, So I can't imagine the loaded weight being any more then 7500 lbs. My hitch is rated for 15000lbs and spring bars are rated for 1200 lbs.

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Big Red and 30WR · 06-03-2016, 05:41 PM

My reese head isn`t like yours . Mine has the serrated washers not the cam lobe ones like yours. Not saying your wrong . It just seems like your head is fairly flat for being angled all the way back, as I have never used a head like yours.

phillips · 06-03-2016, 05:44 PM

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My reese head isn`t like yours . Mine has the serrated washers not the cam lobe ones like yours. Not saying your wrong . It just seems like your head is fairly flat for being angled all the way back, as I have never used a head like yours.

I def wasnt thinking you were saying I was wrong, just figured id show you a pic of mine since you said yours was different.

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tjm · 06-03-2016, 07:29 PM

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Should also mention I have a 2" leveling kit installed on the front of TV, hoping this isn't my issue!! Also would air bags help with this issue?

Yes the leveling kit will tend to cause your truck to sit nose high regardless of how well your weight distribution is set up.

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Big Red and 30WR · 06-03-2016, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by phillips

I def wasnt thinking you were saying I was wrong, just figured id show you a pic of mine since you said yours was different.

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Maybe other reese owners can chime in , but it seems like your head should tilt back more. If my reese head was here @ home I`d post a picture of it tilted all the way back . Could be a design change in the past 16 years. . Have you tried using the chart ( I found it on etrailer website ) It helps you start out by what head angle you want . You measure \your coupler height . Then it will show you how far off the ground you want to set the end of your bars . That will give you your head angle . Mine using the chat my bar ends would be 8.5 -9.5 inches off the ground.

Stormrider151 · 06-04-2016, 01:16 PM

I'm no expert at this by any stretch of the imagination but your spring bars seen to have a lot of tension on them based on the bend in the pictures. I would really like to know what the actual TW is. You may need to step up the rating on your spring bars. I wanted to do the front end lift on my truck too but didn't because I didn't know what the effect it would have on my towing set up.

denville · 06-04-2016, 01:23 PM

To get more weight on the truck the ball must be tipped away from the truck. I also do not have the washers with the settings on it. There was a great post on how to set your style WDH up. It was under a discussion about dropping the bars on a turn

Found the link on the setup
RV.Net Open Roads Forum: Towing: Travel Trailer Hitch Set-up Procedure

lbrjet · 06-04-2016, 02:13 PM

What is the point of lifting the front end? Never heard of that before.

A 1/4 inch rise in the front seems set up is pretty good, hardly ever gets exactly back to equal.

2010 F250 5.4L 3.73
2011 Flagstaff 831FKBSS
Equal-i-zer 4pt 12K

dirkpitt · 06-04-2016, 02:34 PM

I actually just put the Reese dual cam setup on my camper. With 8 links hanging, I don't even need to use the bar to bring the chains up on the hook. Is this normal?

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