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Old 06-12-2015, 10:17 PM   #1
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Questions about 5th vs TT towing

My TV is a 2009 Chevy 2500HD, 4WD, Crew Cab, standard bed, 3.73, gas

My towing capability according to the owner's manual:

TRAILERING
Dead Weight Hitch - Max Trailer Wt. 5000 lbs
Dead Weight Hitch - Max Tongue Wt. 500 lbs
Wt Distributing Hitch - Max Trailer Wt. 9800 lbs
Wt Distributing Hitch - Max Tongue Wt. 1470 lbs
Maximum Trailering Capacity 13000 lbs

I am considering a Crusader 5th wheel, 30BH:
Ship weight: 8519
Carrying Capacity: 1365
Hitch Weight: 1143

I am clueless about 5th wheels...can my truck safely tow this? If so, are there hitches that are easily removed to give me my truck bed back when I'm not towing???

Anyone who has switched from a TT to 5er...do you regret losing your bed? We are concerned we will hate losing the truck bed, and we'll have to deal with getting our topper cross country somehow during our move.
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Old 06-12-2015, 10:32 PM   #2
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Hello,

A couple answers to help. We traded from a TT to a Fifth Wheel. I did hate to loose the bed at first. Found the basement storage adequate. As far as getting the bed back when not towing I have a Reese Elite hitch with under bed puck system. The hitch is removed and plugs block the holes.

As far as specs, go to see everything you have here. You need the Cargo Carrying Capacity from the yellow sticker on the drivers door post, also rear axle weight. With out them you are guessing.

You have a 3/4 ton truck and it should tow what you are suggesting. Need the stickers to confirm. The Gas engine might scream a bit on towing hills but will move it fine. Get the stickers CCC and rear axle and we can confirm.

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Old 06-12-2015, 10:50 PM   #3
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Hopefully these are the right stickers...unless you mean the ones on the 5th wheel?



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Old 06-12-2015, 11:02 PM   #4
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Brain is saying I need the info off the trailer...from the Primetime site, CCC is 1551lbs. Doesn't have axle weight (tho I vaguely recall looking at a sticker on the 5th with that info), I'll have to call the dealer for that tomorrow.
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Old 06-12-2015, 11:15 PM   #5
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Looking at your capacity on the Truck you have enough capacity. Just keep the weight down in the truck bed.Your Pin weight would most likely hit 1600- 1700 pounds, As long as the occupants and gear are under 1000 lbs you are within capacity. Bunch of kids and the adults count, I don't think I would worry about the dog, cats or Parrot

The key figure is the 2975 from the Truck. The Trailer weight figures are fine.

http://www.trailerlife.com/wp-conten...Guide-2009.pdf

The tow guide is a good place as well for some information as well.

I tow a 8289 Rockwood loaded close to 9,200 lbs wet. Calculated pin weight is 1700-1800 pounds. I tow this with a F 250 and Diesel. As I mentioned the Gas Engine may have high RPMs at times and get poor miles per gallon. Just the cost of RV travel.

Best of luck with your search, You seem to have al the numbers, maybe a visit to Chev dealer to confirm truck options and tow package capabilities.
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Old 06-12-2015, 11:16 PM   #6
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I have a Ford equivalent of your truck; a 2013 F250 Crew Cab 4x4 6.2l gas w/ 3.73 gears and towing a similar RV with a Shasta Phoenix 28BH. So my set-up seems relatively equal to what you're asking about, although I'm not sure about comparing the engines from different years. I also switched from a bumper pull last year. I've only had a couple of occasions when I regretted having the 5er in the bed; however, I could pull pins and remove it leaving only the rails, which I haven't gotten to the point where I felt I needed to do yet. My truck tows very well, even up hills, but I'm in West Texas. I haven't had any complaints with my set-up or regrets in switching from the TT to the 5er. Very pleased with my decision.
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Old 06-12-2015, 11:18 PM   #7
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The only thing I can help with is "loseing the box to a 5th wheel hitch". We too had owned horse trailers ,includeing large LQ units.We already had a drop in ball for our goosenecks so it was a simple requirement that the new "5er" be equiped with a Reese Goose Ball coupler.These units are approved by Lippert (actually built by lippert) and feature 5th airborne air ride technology. From experience I can tell you that chucking is non existant and there is no sway from semis or busses. And we still have our full bed use.
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Who says you lose your truck bed?

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I don't necessarily recommend this as I was nervous about my emergency breakaway cable getting yanked by something in a turn.

But, you mentioned a topper/cap- I'm not sure how to tell you to handle that.
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We went from a TT to a Crusader 285RET just about the same weight as what you are talking about. We have an 06 2500HD but a diesel, the truck will handle that fiver just fine, as far as losing bed space, I don't mind, I didn't use it with the TT anyway, the fiver pulls soooooo much better. I think you'll be happy.
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Old 06-12-2015, 11:36 PM   #10
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Forgot that part, thanks Doug.

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