RAM diesel trucks with little rear ends

[schrederman]

This is kind of odd to me. I'm shopping for a 2500 Ram right now and most I've seen have the 3.42 ratio. However, I went to a different dealer yesterday and all of them were 3.73. Since this will be my daily driver, I am wanting the 3.42... for what little fuel savings that will be... And... why no CD players? Yeah, I'm old school, and Ram has them, but they are like hen's teeth... ie. hard to find.

[Jammer3025]

You found some 2500 Ram's with the 3.73 gears. Some people would go nutz over that. I didn't think Ram put those gears in the 2500. Just the 3500's. Yeah I was surprised my truck didn't have a CD player in it as well, but then I never use them anyway since I like the Sat radio , and have so since 2005.

[97Powerstroke]

Originally Posted by schrederman

This is kind of odd to me. I'm shopping for a 2500 Ram right now and most I've seen have the 3.42 ratio. However, I went to a different dealer yesterday and all of them were 3.73. Since this will be my daily driver, I am wanting the 3.42... for what little fuel savings that will be... And... why no CD players? Yeah, I'm old school, and Ram has them, but they are like hen's teeth... ie. hard to find.

The sticker on the 2500 say 3.73 but under the added options under the Cummins Diesel option, it lists it as a 3.42. The salesmen probably looked at the left side if the window sticker. I had several that told me the same thing.


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[Jammer3025]

Yeah, that's what my sticker says. 3.73 gears but in the option's it says I paid for the 3.42. Ha Ha. I would have liked not to have that option. The bottom line is the 3.42 gears work just fine. I pleased with in anyway, and that's all that matters.

[SKnight]

Originally Posted by Jammer3025

Yeah, that's what my sticker says. 3.73 gears but in the option's it says I paid for the 3.42. Ha Ha. I would have liked not to have that option. The bottom line is the 3.42 gears work just fine. I pleased with in anyway, and that's all that matters.

New vehicle stickers are very misleading. The left side is the base model truck as defined by the 2500 or 3500 series description, likely with a gas engine, six speed auto, 3.73 gears. Then the right side adds things on under it's own table, Diesel option group with a sub table, oil cooler, Asin trans, 3.42 gears, etc.

Honestly I don't like that because the left side doesn't mean a thing compared to the right. If a different engine, gearing, trans, etc. will be listed in the options then don't advertise it on the left side. It's meant to protect you, so that you know exactly what was changed from base. Salesmen use it as a selling tool knowing that those that tow would find 3.73 gears desirable.

And in case you're wondering why a 3.73 or higher gear isn't offered, mainly it's because the OEM would need to certify that emissions package again for that gear ratio and final RPM number. One gear, maybe one option, reduces costs in part inventory and emissions certification.

[schrederman]

Ok, you guys are correct... on the right it says 3.42 is the ratio...

Thanks!

[Texas Bohunk]

I just got back from a 10k trip pulling my Platinum 365VTSB. My truck is a 2013 Ram 2500 6.7 cummins, 6 speed automatic trans, and 3.42 gears. The truck pulled fine for the most part there were times when I wished I had 3.73's especially when I was bucking a 25-30mph head wind. Average mpg was 10mpg, best was 12.30 mpg, worse 7.5mpg that was when I bucking the big head winds. If I was ordering a new truck I believe I would be seriously looking at the 3.73 gears.

[Jammer3025]

It will have to be a 3500 then. They don't put the 3.42's in the 3/4 ton Rams with diesel engines.

[Slympicins]

We have the CD player but we also have the option of using a ScanDisk. I formatted a 64 gig card and downloaded all my music on the card. The OEM says it only supports a 32 gig but format the 64 and you can get it to work. With 64 gig of music. I find the CD player up there with the cassette player of yesteryear. But nothing can replace 8 track tapes. Lol.


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[KB3MMX]

OP, might want to review the towing data of the Duramax with the factory 3.73:1 Locker rear. A 3.73:1 Rear has been the best compromise of power and economy for years, that hasn't changed.
Only reason to put a 3.42 or 3.55 in the rear is to squeeze the truck for fuel ecomomy at the expense of pulling power.

FYI: The Duramax (and Ford) have absolutely spanked the Dodge the last several years in the "Rocky Mountain Tow Challenge".
Dodge puts up big talk of power but has lost miserably in the real world challenge. The first challenge, the Dodge was several MINUTES behind the Duramax and Powerstroke trucks up the mountain pass, all were loaded equally heavily....and Dodge lost miserably.

Dodge needs to up their game with the >CUMMINS< (Not Cummings) Diesel badly.

Just food for thought.

[transamz9]

Originally Posted by KB3MMX

OP, might want to review the towing data of the Duramax with the factory 3.73:1 Locker rear. A 3.73:1 Rear has been the best compromise of power and economy for years, that hasn't changed.
Only reason to put a 3.42 or 3.55 in the rear is to squeeze the truck for fuel ecomomy at the expense of pulling power.

FYI: The Duramax (and Ford) have absolutely spanked the Dodge the last several years in the "Rocky Mountain Tow Challenge".
Dodge puts up big talk of power but has lost miserably in the real world challenge. The first challenge, the Dodge was several MINUTES behind the Duramax and Powerstroke trucks up the mountain pass, all were loaded equally heavily....and Dodge lost miserably.

Dodge needs to up their game with the >CUMMINS< (Not Cummings) Diesel badly.

Just food for thought.

>Ram< (Not Dodge) has no problems with the Cummins. Had any recalls latley with the almighty Chevy?

[Texas Bohunk]

Jammer, I think you meant 3.73 in 2500's. My 2013 2500 4X4 has 3.42's in it, I wished it had 3.73's.

[jacknife]

You should go back a couple of diesel power issues pull up thru rockies Ram 3500 Ford f450 Dodge beat it up hands down . Look under the hood of any big rig and 99% have in line 6s.

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[Iwannacamp]

Hello diesel brothers. I need to tell you first...I do not work for Schaeffer's oil products, but I will tell you how to get 10%+ better fuel mileage.

IT IS SIMPLE.... USE SCHAEFFER'S FUEL TREATMENT

NEUTRA OR DIESEL TREAT 2000 IS WHAT I USE

[jevanb]

Originally Posted by jacknife

Look under the hood of any big rig and 99% have in line 6s.

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that is because v8`s are wide and manufacturers & owners want aerodynamic front ends which the 6 gives

[Jammer3025]

Originally Posted by Texas Bohunk

Jammer, I think you meant 3.73 in 2500's. My 2013 2500 4X4 has 3.42's in it, I wished it had 3.73's.

Thanks Bro, indeed your right. I did mean to say 3.73 Jeez!

[goduc]

Originally Posted by KB3MMX

OP, might want to review the towing data of the Duramax with the factory 3.73:1 Locker rear. A 3.73:1 Rear has been the best compromise of power and economy for years, that hasn't changed.
Only reason to put a 3.42 or 3.55 in the rear is to squeeze the truck for fuel ecomomy at the expense of pulling power.

FYI: The Duramax (and Ford) have absolutely spanked the Dodge the last several years in the "Rocky Mountain Tow Challenge".
Dodge puts up big talk of power but has lost miserably in the real world challenge. The first challenge, the Dodge was several MINUTES behind the Duramax and Powerstroke trucks up the mountain pass, all were loaded equally heavily....and Dodge lost miserably.

Dodge needs to up their game with the >CUMMINS< (Not Cummings) Diesel badly.

Just food for thought.

Seems you're the only one who cares. Look at total sales of HD diesel trucks. Ram pasted GM in sales last year. IIRC close to 2-1.
Most aren't concerned about who gets to the top 1st as any of the big 3 will be more than adequate. Buyers are concerned about styling and comfort. Something GM lacks big time. Add to that that GM has recalls every week and well you get the picture. That's why the sales of their HD diesels are 3rd. Just food for thought.

[cbconway]

Originally Posted by KB3MMX

OP, might want to review the towing data of the Duramax with the factory 3.73:1 Locker rear. A 3.73:1 Rear has been the best compromise of power and economy for years, that hasn't changed.
Only reason to put a 3.42 or 3.55 in the rear is to squeeze the truck for fuel ecomomy at the expense of pulling power.

FYI: The Duramax (and Ford) have absolutely spanked the Dodge the last several years in the "Rocky Mountain Tow Challenge".
Dodge puts up big talk of power but has lost miserably in the real world challenge. The first challenge, the Dodge was several MINUTES behind the Duramax and Powerstroke trucks up the mountain pass, all were loaded equally heavily....and Dodge lost miserably.

Dodge needs to up their game with the >CUMMINS< (Not Cummings) Diesel badly.

Just food for thought.

It's not just ordinary food for thought. It's Troll-ishuss!!

[Slympicins]

Yup. Recall recall recall. Chevys lack the awe in design and interior. I'm not going to the top of the hill to be first! I'm getting to the top of the hill in style and SAFE!!! Therefore, see you on the other side of the hill. Remember this...the tortoise always beat the hare!


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[schrederman]

This thread was going so well... always gotta be one chest beater that says mine's better because I bought it... so... it has to be...