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01-14-2019, 01:47 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Oshawa, ON
Posts: 979
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Originally Posted by NMWildcat
I can completely rebuild my old truck top to bottom about three times for the cost of a new one........ . I honestly don't see any new personal tow vehicles in my future if the cost continues up. New pickups are definitely in the ridiculous cost range.
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You're lucky enough to live in perpetual summer year round. For those of us that reside in the road-salt belt our truck bodies wouldn't last long enough for multiple rebuilds.
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2017 GMC SLT HD All Terrain Crew Cab (6' 6" Box) 2012 Roo 23SS
E2 Trunnion WDH (1,000 lb / 10,000 lb)
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01-14-2019, 02:03 PM
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Senior Member
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Posts: 4,223
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timfromma
Thats probably bare bones 4x2. How much payload for a nicely equipped 4x4 with a crew cab?
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We have a nicely equipped ‘17 Big Horn dually with the high output Cummins. With a full tank of fuel, driver and one pax the remaining payload is 5,820. That’s a number derived from the CAT scale.
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01-14-2019, 02:08 PM
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#23
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: SC
Posts: 114
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Very Happy with our F-450 Super Duty King Ranch at 860LB.FT., 440HP
Max 5th Wheel 31,200# Payload 5300#
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2016 F450
2017 Cedar Creek 38EL Champagne
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01-14-2019, 02:09 PM
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#24
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Southeast
Posts: 1,047
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2019 Ford Super Duty F-350 925... could be boosted easily.
Power Stroke 6.7L Turbo V8 440hp 925ft. lbs. 8 Cylinder
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01-14-2019, 02:54 PM
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#25
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Southern NM
Posts: 9,518
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Lyon
You're lucky enough to live in perpetual summer year round. For those of us that reside in the road-salt belt our truck bodies wouldn't last long enough for multiple rebuilds.
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This is true. But, you could buy a used one from my area, rebuild it if needed, and still be way ahead
I would love a new truck, but I love no payment and no emissions more.......
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2012 Wildcat Sterling 32RL - w/level up (best option ever)
2007 Chevy 2500HD Duramax
Reese Fifth Airborne Sidewinder
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01-14-2019, 04:45 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Savannah, GA
Posts: 185
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rlh1957
2019 Ford Super Duty F-350 925... could be boosted easily.
Power Stroke 6.7L Turbo V8 440hp 925ft. lbs. 8 Cylinder
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Did Ford make a downgrade for 2019? My 2018 F-350 is rated at 935 Lb-Ft
Tq and 450HP. Your numbers sound more like the 2017 ratings.
Do I need or want 1,000 Lb-Ft Tq for pulling a larger sized 5er... nope. Definitely not for the bonus price Ram wants for theirs.
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2018 F-350 Lariat CC SRW PSD 4x4
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01-14-2019, 05:01 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 126
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Really....How much is one willing to pay for Bragging Rights.
“We buy things we don't need with money we don't have to impress people we don't like.”
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01-14-2019, 05:03 PM
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Georgia Rally Coordinator
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: GA
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Be interesting on the 6.4 with the new 8 speed what kind of mileage it will get. Later RJD
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2018 Dodge Ram 2500 6.4 3:73 gearing. Traded 2015 Chevy 2500 6.0, 4:10
Traded 2015 30WRLIKS V-Lite
Days camped 2019 62
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01-14-2019, 05:12 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Valencia Pa
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Buy a Ram, their a foreign company that loves the American consumers money.
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01-14-2019, 05:57 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 1,834
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jtesta1
Buy a Ram, their a foreign company that loves the American consumers money.
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they're
I've met/worked with their engineers. I didn't need a passport.
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01-14-2019, 06:39 PM
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Grammar Pedant
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Frederick, CO
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You realize that those things aren't mutually exclusive, right? There are many foreign companies that maintain operations here in the US. That means that you can, as you mention, interact with their staff without leaving the US. It's still a non-US company, though.
And, if you want to get picky about the grammar, they're isn't correct, either. The pronoun is it's, as there is but a single company. "Buy a Ram, it's a foreign company that loves the American consumer's money."
I'll leave it for others to decide if any of that matters.
Steering back to topic. The payload of a truck ought to do more with the axles, frame thickness, suspension, and other components. Thus, the high output engine shouldn't have much to do with the payload. The article mentioned a few times that the engine was using weight-reducing components. So, maybe the HO engine is actually a few pounds lighter than standard. Either way, I'd expect it to be very similar to current payloads. Figure 3,300 - 4,300 for a SRW.
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TV: 2019 F-350 Lariat 4WD CCSB 6.7 PSD 3.55, 3,591 lb payload
Former RV: 2018 Rockwood Mini Lite 2504S
Former RV: 2007 Fleetwood/Coleman Utah
Former TV: 2005 F-150 King Ranch 4WD SCrew 5.4L Tow Package
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01-14-2019, 06:40 PM
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#32
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 284
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aceinspp
Be interesting on the 6.4 with the new 8 speed what kind of mileage it will get. Later RJD
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I didn’t see it mentioned about the 6.4 and the 8 speed tranny where did you see that ?
I hope I just missed it. That’s the news I was hoping to hear.
I did see the 8 speed for the Cummins. Part of the high output 1000 ft/lbs. I read about it a while ago. It’s the Aisin 8AP.
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01-14-2019, 06:50 PM
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Grammar Pedant
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Frederick, CO
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Ford introduced a 10 speed to the 1/2 ton line a few years back. I have read that it will introduce a HD version of the 10 speed into the F250/F350 line with the 2020 model.
Some may like this, but it only makes me want to hurry up and get a truck while I can still get the bullet-proof 6R140 transmission. I foresee lots of messes with these transmissions with 8-10 speeds.
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TV: 2019 F-350 Lariat 4WD CCSB 6.7 PSD 3.55, 3,591 lb payload
Former RV: 2018 Rockwood Mini Lite 2504S
Former RV: 2007 Fleetwood/Coleman Utah
Former TV: 2005 F-150 King Ranch 4WD SCrew 5.4L Tow Package
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01-14-2019, 07:49 PM
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#34
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Georgia Rally Coordinator
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: GA
Posts: 24,350
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jgroff
I didn’t see it mentioned about the 6.4 and the 8 speed tranny where did you see that ?
I hope I just missed it. That’s the news I was hoping to hear.
I did see the 8 speed for the Cummins. Part of the high output 1000 ft/lbs. I read about it a while ago. It’s the Aisin 8AP.
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Was in the article about the new Rams. They talked about 3500 and 2500. Here is just a small part of the article
The final available engine is the standard 6.4-liter Hemi V-8; it’s good for 410 horsepower and 429 lb-ft of torque and uses the eight-speed automatic exclusively. Whichever gearbox is underneath, the Ram Heavy Duty employs the familiar shift-by-wire rotary gear-selection dial instead of a console or column-mounted shifter. The part I don't like is the rotary dial to shift.
Later RJD
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2018 Dodge Ram 2500 6.4 3:73 gearing. Traded 2015 Chevy 2500 6.0, 4:10
Traded 2015 30WRLIKS V-Lite
Days camped 2019 62
Days camped 2020 49 days camped 2021-74 2022-40 days 2023 5 days
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01-14-2019, 08:25 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 9,458
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Grammar pedant, Jr.
Quote:
Originally Posted by 67L48
And, if you want to get picky about the grammar, they're isn't correct, either. The pronoun is it's, as there is but a single company. "Buy a Ram, it's a foreign company that loves the American consumer's money."
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"Buy a Ram, it's produced by a foreign company that loves the American consumer's money."
If you're going to be a grammar pedant, don't hold back.
Larry
(Grammar pedant, jr.)
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01-14-2019, 08:30 PM
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#36
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Georgia Rally Coordinator
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: GA
Posts: 24,350
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Larry-NC
"Buy a Ram, it's produced by a foreign company that loves the American consumer's money."
If you're going to be a grammar pedant, don't hold back.
Larry
(Grammar pedant, jr.)
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Made be a foreign company that owns it but its still an American brand. And soon to be built back in Detroit. Later RJD
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2018 Dodge Ram 2500 6.4 3:73 gearing. Traded 2015 Chevy 2500 6.0, 4:10
Traded 2015 30WRLIKS V-Lite
Days camped 2019 62
Days camped 2020 49 days camped 2021-74 2022-40 days 2023 5 days
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01-14-2019, 08:37 PM
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#37
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 284
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aceinspp
Was in the article about the new Rams. They talked about 3500 and 2500. Here is just a small part of the article
The final available engine is the standard 6.4-liter Hemi V-8; it’s good for 410 horsepower and 429 lb-ft of torque and uses the eight-speed automatic exclusively. Whichever gearbox is underneath, the Ram Heavy Duty employs the familiar shift-by-wire rotary gear-selection dial instead of a console or column-mounted shifter. The part I don't like is the rotary dial to shift.
Later RJD
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sounds good until the rotary dial. not a fan but if it had paddle shifters it might not be to bad.
thanks for the info
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01-14-2019, 08:40 PM
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#38
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Grammar Pedant
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Frederick, CO
Posts: 1,580
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Larry-NC
"Buy a Ram, it's produced by a foreign company that loves the American consumer's money."
If you're going to be a grammar pedant, don't hold back.
Larry
(Grammar pedant, jr.)
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You changed the sentence and it reads better. I wasn't trying to re-write it. In fact, I wasn't trying to correct it. The other guy did ... and did a poor job of it. I can let bad grammar slide. I can't, apparently, let someone incorrectly correct someone's bad grammar.
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TV: 2019 F-350 Lariat 4WD CCSB 6.7 PSD 3.55, 3,591 lb payload
Former RV: 2018 Rockwood Mini Lite 2504S
Former RV: 2007 Fleetwood/Coleman Utah
Former TV: 2005 F-150 King Ranch 4WD SCrew 5.4L Tow Package
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01-14-2019, 09:07 PM
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#39
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 806
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I must be doing something wrong, towing, getting groceries, or just riding around I can only think of a few times when I actually started to use all of the available torque/power that our 13 year old weak in the knees 650 ft lbs of torque this 200k mile Duramax has to offer. Are all the bells and whistles really worth it? I actually drove a 2015 home tonight, I told my wife that I was glad we got the body style we got, so much more comfortable. Oh well, daddy always told me I was a slow learner.
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01-15-2019, 08:39 AM
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#40
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Jefferson, PA
Posts: 451
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jgroff
I didn’t see it mentioned about the 6.4 and the 8 speed tranny where did you see that ?
I hope I just missed it. That’s the news I was hoping to hear.
I did see the 8 speed for the Cummins. Part of the high output 1000 ft/lbs. I read about it a while ago. It’s the Aisin 8AP.
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Its in the article, but Cummins is keeping the 6 speed trannys for now.
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2014 Ram 3500 Dually 4x4 6.7 Cummins
2017 Sandpiper 378FB
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