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Old 01-04-2014, 09:25 AM   #11
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Old 01-04-2014, 09:51 AM   #12
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If you happen to go to any of the RV shows take a look at the trailers with the already installed fold down racks, you will see that the frames are just the same as was described by OC, they have just welded tubing on to the frame to accommodate the rack, nothing fancy and no apparent mass strengthening of the frame. So the conclusion must be that yes it is possible to do this on older units but must be done properly.
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I believe the pics that have been added above by RKR and Turbo simply prove the point that you should not be clamping something simply to the BUMPER. You need something stouter than that.
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Still appears that you had no beefing up of the bumper/frame to me. What were you hanging on it? Weight and distance?
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Still appears that you had no beefing up of the bumper/frame to me. What were you hanging on it? Weight and distance?

I think that's the point being made to the OP. You shouldn't hang anything off a stock bumper that isn't made for it from the factory.
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I think that's the point being made to the OP. You shouldn't hang anything off a stock bumper that isn't made for it from the factory.
I understand HIS point - Don't do ANYTHING. But MY point is that you need to know all the details about what was hung on the bumper, how heavy, how far out from the bumper, what beefing up, if any, was done before you can make any kind of valid determination about what happened. Without any details just "hey, look at this," it is impossible to make any real determination of what the problem was.

I don't know if someone tried to hang a 500 lb generator on that bumper or a 40 lb spare tire. I don't know if it was 3 inches from the bumper or 3 ft. I don't know that he didn't drive his trailer over a 12" curb. All I know is what he's shown me.

I think it's perfectly acceptable to hang stuff of the bumper, provided you are smart about it. It's disingenuous to hang something on your bumper in a (perhaps) not smart manner, have a problem, and then say "NOBODY should hang ANYTHING on their bumper."

(I'm not trying to say the OP did something in a not smart manner, but without all the details, what am I supposed to think?)
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I understand HIS point - Don't do ANYTHING. But MY point is that you need to know all the details about what was hung on the bumper, how heavy, how far out from the bumper, what beefing up, if any, was done before you can make any kind of valid determination about what happened. Without any details just "hey, look at this," it is impossible to make any real determination of what the problem was.

I don't know if someone tried to hang a 500 lb generator on that bumper or a 40 lb spare tire. I don't know if it was 3 inches from the bumper or 3 ft. I don't know that he didn't drive his trailer over a 12" curb. All I know is what he's shown me.

I think it's perfectly acceptable to hang stuff of the bumper, provided you are smart about it. It's disingenuous to hang something on your bumper in a (perhaps) not smart manner, have a problem, and then say "NOBODY should hang ANYTHING on their bumper."

(I'm not trying to say the OP did something in a not smart manner, but without all the details, what am I supposed to think?)
In the Original Poster's (OP) statement he asked about putting a rack on the stock bumper to haul firewood or 4 bikes. The photos you see here are from forum members who had less than that attached to a stock bumper. The statement being made is, if it didn't come from the factory stock, it shouldn't go on a stock bumper. This has been brought up many times here. Can I engineer a rack on the back of a trailer and have it hold anything? ABSOLUTELY, and I can guarantee it will still be there when the frame of the trailer has bent in half. I saw a guy have a full dresser Harley on the back of a fifth wheel. I'm guessing the weight of Harley and added steel to the ramp was about 1300lbs. Was engineered and built fine, but that frame isn't going to last, not to mention his pin weight is now at a very dangerous point.
The details of the photos are not important, what IS important is that the manufacturer clearly states, that nothing should be mounted to the stock bumper, as it is not engineered for anything more than they put on it. If you do, this is what could happen.
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Does anyone have experience with this ladder type of bike rack? It mounts to the back wall of the TT rather than the bumper.

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I have a similar rack that hangs on one of the steps rather than clamping to the rails. We've hauled two bikes on it. You should strap or bungee them securely to the ladder so they don't bounce around too much. If the ladder will hold a 250# adult climbing it, it should hold two bikes, even with a little bounce in the rear of the trailer. The bikes, if strapped tightly to the ladder, won't bounce that much.
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