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Old 01-05-2014, 09:05 PM   #31
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rockfordroo - If the "blanket statement" from the manufacturer is "Don't put anything on the bumper", are you advocating that the consumer evaluate the engineering and manufacturing of the bumper themselves and then make the decision as to whether it is capable of handling any additional weight? I don't think you are.

If that certain O-Ring, carried a warning of "Do not use under 56 degrees", would you still use it at 50, 40, or 30 degrees, knowing that it was probably "over-engineered"?
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rockfordroo - If the "blanket statement" from the manufacturer is "Don't put anything on the bumper", are you advocating that the consumer evaluate the engineering and manufacturing of the bumper themselves and then make the decision as to whether it is capable of handling any additional weight? I don't think you are.

If that certain O-Ring, carried a warning of "Do not use under 56 degrees", would you still use it at 50, 40, or 30 degrees, knowing that it was probably "over-engineered"?
Well said AM! Agree 100%. Just do your own engineering and then blame the mfg if it fails.
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Well said AM! Agree 100%. Just do your own engineering and then blame the mfg if it fails.
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I have not read all of the replies on this issue but in 2008 at an RV show in Maryland there was a FR unit there an it was a 8314 model and there was a sticker on the bumper that stated that the bumper would hold up to 150 lbs and this was not to accede 24"out from the bumper, like a bike rack.
Remember, the bike rack weight has to be part of the total load.
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rockfordroo - If the "blanket statement" from the manufacturer is "Don't put anything on the bumper", are you advocating that the consumer evaluate the engineering and manufacturing of the bumper themselves and then make the decision as to whether it is capable of handling any additional weight? I don't think you are.
Absolutely NOT!!! I'm saying that people that simply say "Don't put something on your bumper" and show some pic of a bad bumper WITHOUT PROVIDING ANY DETAILS are being disingenuous. They're showing a pic of a bad bumper, but WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING about what it was designed for, how it was or wasn't modified, or what he may have subjected it to.

Showing me a pic of a broken picnic table and saying "Don't put anything on your picnic table" when, for all I know (because he never told me), he had an elephant sit on it, is disingenuous.

(As an aside, neither my bumper nor my RV paperwork has any "blanket statement" or anything else about putting anything on my bumper.)

As I said previously, it's like someone telling us what TT they plan to buy and asking about TV's, and some poster will say "Oh, a 1/2 ton Pickup can pull that." In most cases, SOME 1/2 ton's may pull it, but probably not all. (Silverado 1500's can range from 4,000lb to 12,000lb towing capacity.) So to just flippantly make these kind of statements (or post these kinds of bumper pics) without details or qualifiers is disingenuous.
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Absolutely NOT!!! I'm saying that people that simply say "Don't put something on your bumper" and show some pic of a bad bumper WITHOUT PROVIDING ANY DETAILS are being disingenuous. They're showing a pic of a bad bumper, but WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING about what it was designed for, how it was or wasn't modified, or what he may have subjected it to.

Showing me a pic of a broken picnic table and saying "Don't put anything on your picnic table" when, for all I know (because he never told me), he had an elephant sit on it, is disingenuous.

(As an aside, neither my bumper nor my RV paperwork has any "blanket statement" or anything else about putting anything on my bumper.)

As I said previously, it's like someone telling us what TT they plan to buy and asking about TV's, and some poster will say "Oh, a 1/2 ton Pickup can pull that." In most cases, SOME 1/2 ton's may pull it, but probably not all. (Silverado 1500's can range from 4,000lb to 12,000lb towing capacity.) So to just flippantly make these kind of statements (or post these kinds of bumper pics) without details or qualifiers is disingenuous.
Again, the OP was told by dealer, the manufacturer, and several people on this forum, "DO NOT MOUNT ANYTHING TO BUMPER". It really doesn't matter what it is, when you are told to mount NOTHING. ANYTHING may make it fail.

I'm done with this, do what you want.
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I don't think anyone on this forum knows the definition of "ingenuous." It has nothing to do with the bumper, per se.

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I don't think anyone on this forum knows the definition of "ingenuous." It has nothing to do with the bumper, per se.

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Something to do with veracity? Just wonderin, some folks just don't think things out.....guess we're all guilty of that sometimes?
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in·gen·u·ous (n-jny-s)
adj.
1. Lacking in cunning, guile, or worldliness; artless.
2. Openly straightforward or frank; candid. See Synonyms at naive.


I personally believe that with modification and forethought, a person can hang a semi truck off the back of your tt. With enough modification.

OP..do what you need to do to use your toys as you see fit. If you are not comfortable with doing so or do not have the knowledge to do so, then hire someone to do it for you.
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I don't think anyone on this forum knows the definition of "ingenuous." It has nothing to do with the bumper, per se.

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Definition of ingenuous: Characterized by an inability to mask your feelings; not devious
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