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Old 03-01-2016, 09:02 AM   #11
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6-7 years old on your truck tires is where I would look first, especially because they may even be older then that if you look at the date code on them.
I went through a similar issue with my 06-Tundra not even towing anything. The truck had horrible traction when it would rain.
Tire were about 5-years old, had 50k miles on them, but still had plenty of tread left (all highway miles). When I took the truck in for service I decided to spend the money and put a new set of tires on it (Same brand & model) and the difference was night & day.
When you felt the rubber on the old tire to the new tire right away you could tell why I had traction issues, the old tires were like stones, new tires were soft like chewing gum.
Not saying this is your issue, just noting the difference of new tire to old.
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Old 03-01-2016, 09:37 AM   #12
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I know most guys want to make their trucks level with the WDH. But it's a truck, when towing weight it is not a bad think for the rear to sag just a bit. It helps with everything from sway to pushing you thru turns.
Not sure I get the logic on this comment. Rear sag affects head light aim, steering geometry, ground clearance at the hitch, extra load on the rear springs, lighter weight of the front tires of the TV and also affects the weight front to rear of the TT tandems. Without overloading the TV, the WDH, weight assist springs and weight assist air bags are made to help alleviate rear end sag and level the entire unit. With the proper ball height, the TV should be level as should be the TT. You will not often see sway-back rigs going down the road, so they do stand out in a crowd. There must be a reason (or many).
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Old 03-01-2016, 03:38 PM   #13
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Come on...we're not talking tail dragging sag get real...too many people forget they have a truck ...you put some weight in the bed it'll sag a little...like I said a little...most trucks are built with the rearended a lil high anyways...so if you let some weight on the tires eliminates a lot of evils....just too many guys go the other direction and take all the weight off the rear trying to make the truck level...
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Steve, my original tires were Transforce and traction was lacking. I could get stuck on wet grass. I finally upgraded to BFG All Terrains and so far, they are very good. Granted my diesel 2500 has most of the weight on the front axle.

I also can, with just one link on the Reese hitch, either shift tongue weight more to the front, which could cause rear wheels to spin more easily, or less towards the front, which can cause front tires to loose traction (anti-lock kicks in) on rain slick, especially first rain at "oily" stop lights. I have enough torque to easily spin on even damp pavement, so I have to be careful, but even then the rig stays straight. I typically want to adjust the WDH to make braking better rather than be overly concerned about rear wheel traction.

I would imagine those log trucks drop a lot of oil, not to mention rut up the pavement as they are typicaly, over the weight limit.
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Old 03-02-2016, 08:49 AM   #15
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Steve, my original tires were Transforce and traction was lacking. I could get stuck on wet grass. I finally upgraded to BFG All Terrains and so far, they are very good. Granted my diesel 2500 has most of the weight on the front axle.

I also can, with just one link on the Reese hitch, either shift tongue weight more to the front, which could cause rear wheels to spin more easily, or less towards the front, which can cause front tires to loose traction (anti-lock kicks in) on rain slick, especially first rain at "oily" stop lights. I have enough torque to easily spin on even damp pavement, so I have to be careful, but even then the rig stays straight. I typically want to adjust the WDH to make braking better rather than be overly concerned about rear wheel traction.

I would imagine those log trucks drop a lot of oil, not to mention rut up the pavement as they are typicaly, over the weight limit.
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Old 03-02-2016, 08:58 AM   #16
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Time for a new set of tires.
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Don't forget, a WDH can easily take ALL the weight off the rear wheels. Back in the day I remember seeing a demonstration where a WDH was used on an Oldsmobile Toranado and the rear wheels were removed and that car being front wheel drive towed the trailer all over the parking lot without any rear tires.

Take the weight off the rear tires, add sway control, take a corner where the trailer is pushing the rear of the TV to the outside....could get very interesting!
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Don't forget, a WDH can easily take ALL the weight off the rear wheels. Back in the day I remember seeing a demonstration where a WDH was used on an Oldsmobile Toranado and the rear wheels were removed and that car being front wheel drive towed the trailer all over the parking lot without any rear tires.

Take the weight off the rear tires, add sway control, take a corner where the trailer is pushing the rear of the TV to the outside....could get very interesting!

X2 Yup. Back in the early '80's Chevrolet actually put out a commercial when the Chevrolet Citation (FWD) came out. They put a small boat & trailer on the rear with a WDH and took the rear wheels off the car & towd it down the street! Hope it had trailer brakes!
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Old 03-03-2016, 10:34 AM   #19
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Don't forget, a WDH can easily take ALL the weight off the rear wheels. Back in the day I remember seeing a demonstration where a WDH was used on an Oldsmobile Toranado and the rear wheels were removed and that car being front wheel drive towed the trailer all over the parking lot without any rear tires.

Take the weight off the rear tires, add sway control, take a corner where the trailer is pushing the rear of the TV to the outside....could get very interesting!
Not so sure there is a WDH made that could lift my rear tires off the road... over 4000# with the trailer without WDH, although I can transfer too much weight with 1400# bars... I do remember seeing that demo and the Toranado
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