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Old 04-09-2014, 08:21 AM   #1
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Reese Revolution and 5W Trailer Sway

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As always thanks for your sharing your immense collective wisdom.

The wife and I recently began the transition to a much more capable TV. Specifically, we purchased a lightly used 2014 Dodge 3500 Ram with 6.7 CTD. The new truck however is a short bed truck.

Because our 5W has a Reese Revolution pin box we have been working towards getting a matching rail kit installed that will allow the hitch from our 2500 to be moved to our 3500. We beleive we can do this by activating the sidewinder function within our trailer.

My issue is at this point I came across a youtube video I beleive was sponsored by (or produced by) Pull-Rite which talks about this inducing trailer sway back into the 5W towing situation by moving the pivot point to the rear.

My review of some of the posts/threads within the forum indicate that some senior (more experienced) members of the forum use this function with their short-bed tow vehicles and I hope that you can share your experiences (or lack of bad experiences) with 5W trailer sway while towing with the Reese Revolution system activated.

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As always, thanks for sharing your collective wisdom and overall friendliness.

Happy Trails.

B n D
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Old 04-09-2014, 08:38 AM   #2
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Just my experience. I pulled a tt for 5+ years. Plenty of experience with sway. Then a 9000lb wildcat for 4 years with a half ton and regular hitch. No away ever.
Now I pull a 8000lb rockwood with revolution pin. Maybe, maybe on one or two occasions, I felt a big rig pass. Very little movement. I doubt at all that you will feel anything with a one ton truck. I love the revolution on my short bed.

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Old 04-09-2014, 08:49 AM   #3
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Wow. Just watched the video. While the concept is accurate (moving a hitch to the rear of the axle allows sway) it has nothing to do with the revolution setup. The hitch has not been moved back. The weight is in the same place as any other hitch. Either pull rite has never seen a revolution pin box, or they are intentionally misleading buyers. I think its just a scare tactic. I tried to get a pull rite back in 2009. They kept telling me it did not fit my truck, but I'd see them mounted in same model. And, the pull rite moves the pivot point behind the Axel every time you turn. And, you can pull any 5er with a regular pin with your standard hitch. You can only pull a pullrite setup 5er with a pull rite hitch. Jmo

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Old 04-09-2014, 08:53 AM   #4
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I think the video is a great cartoon developed by a company feeling the hurt from the introduction of the Reese revolution designed for short bed trucks. I used my reese revolution with both setups and have noticed no change in the towing dynamics of my 9000lb fifth wheel. The positive is that I have the comfort of that added clearance between camper and truck.
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I've yet to hear an actual owner of a Reese Revolution mention sway, much less complain of it. If I had a short bed, it's definitely what I would be installing.
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Old 04-09-2014, 09:21 AM   #6
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Reese Revolution and 5W Trailer Sway

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Folks,

As always thanks for your sharing your immense collective wisdom.

The wife and I recently began the transition to a much more capable TV. Specifically, we purchased a lightly used 2014 Dodge 3500 Ram with 6.7 CTD. The new truck however is a short bed truck.

Because our 5W has a Reese Revolution pin box we have been working towards getting a matching rail kit installed that will allow the hitch from our 2500 to be moved to our 3500. We beleive we can do this by activating the sidewinder function within our trailer.

My issue is at this point I came across a youtube video I beleive was sponsored by (or produced by) Pull-Rite which talks about this inducing trailer sway back into the 5W towing situation by moving the pivot point to the rear.

My review of some of the posts/threads within the forum indicate that some senior (more experienced) members of the forum use this function with their short-bed tow vehicles and I hope that you can share your experiences (or lack of bad experiences) with 5W trailer sway while towing with the Reese Revolution system activated.

The video link is:


As always, thanks for sharing your collective wisdom and overall friendliness.

Happy Trails.

B n D


Bill,

I have LOTS of sway/vortex experience towing a TT. When we upgraded to a 5er last year, we found even with a 6 1/2' bed, we would need some sort of moving hitch. Our dealer (Dandy RV in Anniston, AL...best in the world IMHO ) recommended the Reese 16K with the revolution kingpin over the Pull-Rite. When I asked why, we were flatly told it was overpriced and in their opinion not constructed as well as a Reese. We listened to our dealer and got the Reese.

Caveat: make SURE your installer knows the Sidewinder....our first installation resulted in having to get a different wedge before the sidewinder worked correctly.

Another benefit of a sidewinder: you do not have to be so ~precise~ when you back up to hookup. One of you guys back the truck and when close the other can move the sidewinder left/right to align it with the receiver - easy peasy!

Oh, and back to your original question...just got back form a 350 mile all interstate trip. Didn't even know the 5er was behind us and yes, we had a lot of trucks blast past us at 95MPH. Nary a wiggle
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Old 04-09-2014, 09:24 AM   #7
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The hitches for the Revolution are not moved behind the axle as depicted on the video, they are mounted ahead of the axles just as any 5th wheel hitch is located so the pin load is still ahead of the axle.
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Old 04-09-2014, 11:57 AM   #8
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OC,

True, but the pivot point HAS been changed. Has that change caused and/or have you noticed any sway while pulling the way you do... BTW I am leaning more towards using the reese revolution in sidewinder mode rather than buying a "SLIDER" hitch for the 3500.

Thanks to all.

Anyone else have any comments?

Happy Trails,

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OC,

True, but the pivot point HAS been changed. Has that change caused and/or have you noticed any sway while pulling the way you do... BTW I am leaning more towards using the reese revolution in sidewinder mode rather than buying a "SLIDER" hitch for the 3500.

Thanks to all.

Anyone else have any comments?

Happy Trails,

B n D
Yes, the trailer pivot has changed but the pin load has not as is depicted incorrectly in the video. I haven't noticed any sway other than on a few occasions a bus or semi passes me doing at least 15 mph faster than me. Nothing more than a slight wiggle and certainly not white knuckle. I notice the same sway following semi's when they get passed by another semi doing 15+ mph faster.
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Old 04-09-2014, 12:08 PM   #10
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Thanks for sharing your experience. It helps much!

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