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Old 04-14-2016, 04:25 PM   #11
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Since when does Cequents recommend a lube plate when the wedge is installed? In fact they tell you to take it off. If your wedge is set correctly it would be impossible to use one unless you made a cut out. also that would raise your wedge above the jaws of the hitch even more, what ever thickness the plate is. All I grease is the wedge and pin, never had a problem in 4 years and over 15,000 miles. This is new to me but they do change there minds on things....
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Old 04-14-2016, 04:29 PM   #12
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Since when does Cequents recommend a lube plate when the wedge is installed? In fact they tell you to take it off. If your wedge is set correctly it would be impossible to use one unless you made a cut out. also that would raise your wedge above the jaws of the hitch even more, what ever thickness the plate is. All I grease is the wedge and pin, never had a problem in 4 years and over 15,000 miles. This is new to me but they do change there minds on things....
You also need to grease the revolution bearing as well. That is a change according to last year at Goshen. I bet your new hitch is well greases at the pivot too!!
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You also need to grease the revolution bearing as well. That is a change according to last year at Goshen. I bet your new hitch is well greases at the pivot too!!
The 2 engineers that designed it must have quit or got fired. They were emphatic about NOT greasing the pivot shaft in the rear. I will leave mine without grease as I don't want to 'chase' it around when hitching up.
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Old 04-14-2016, 04:33 PM   #14
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Since when does Cequents recommend a lube plate when the wedge is installed? In fact they tell you to take it off. If your wedge is set correctly it would be impossible to use one unless you made a cut out. also that would raise your wedge above the jaws of the hitch even more, what ever thickness the plate is. All I grease is the wedge and pin, never had a problem in 4 years and over 15,000 miles. This is new to me but they do change there minds on things....
I've been lubing the hitch head flat surface to make hitching easier/smoother (in theory)

I saw the 83003 lube plate and thought it looked like it should fit/work from first look, so I emailed them.
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Yes, you can use the 83003 on the Titan hitch with a Sidewinder pin box. Lube plates that go on the pin box will NOT work.

Thank you for contacting the Technical Group.

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I want to confirm whether the Reese part 83003 Titan 16K Fifth Wheel Lube Plate is compatible with the Revolution (aka Sidewinder) 10K pin box setup (unlocked, with wedge fitted).It looks like its designed for the purpose, since it fits the shape of the hitch, unlike traditional circular lube plates which wont work with a Revolution pin box, but I wanted to confirm before ordering.Thanks
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Old 04-15-2016, 01:40 PM   #15
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I've had sidewinders on my last 2 rigs. LOVE THEM! I always used the standard teflon lube plate on the kingpin side. I just cut off enough of the teflon plate so it would fit around the key. Cheap and easy. Then about a year ago the lube plate fell off and I didn't notice any difference. Now I do what was suggested above and spray the hitch head with a little silicon before I hook up. Even easier!!!
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What benefit is a lube plate with a Sidewinder with a wedge? I just spray a little white lithium on the ramp of the hitch. It stays on the front of the pin box and the hitch ramp, not on the hitch flat portion itself. After 4 yrs, the paint is still 75% present, but most of what is gone is from the tonneau cover rubbing on it.
I agree with OldCoot on this one; what's the point of any lube plate when using a Sidewinder or Revolution. The only movement there is during hitch and unhitch. The pivot occurs at the top end of the pinbox, not on the skid plate.
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Was just lubing the plate to make the hitch and unhitch smoother, but based on feedback from folks here I may just use a little lithium spray instead.
My hitch plate already has several bare spots, which started to rust since I removed the grease at the weekend. I may clean the rust off and give it a quick touch-up with some paint in the next week or so
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I find spraying the underneath side of the side winder where it contacts the receiver while hooking up with Silicone makes it much easier. No mess either. I also put two telescopic magnetic pickups in the bed lined up with the pin center line did wonders. I back up to it and get them close as possible then if not perfect I pull up and get them lined up as pull forward and the it is a matter of just backing straight into it. A backup camera mounted to the center stop light would be nice as some of the new trucks have. Love the way the hitch works, just pain to hook up unless perfectly lined up.
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I've gotten pretty good at lining up, so long as I remove the rear center headrest first. I use a combination of the tailgate backup camera and looking through the rear window to get close, then drop the tailgate and check alignment from the trailer end (adjusting if necessary)
then just hook up the cable, adjust height of pinbox, unlock hitch, and back up until engaged (and then follow rest of normal hookup procedure of course)

First few times was a lot more messing about, but now it's normally fairly quick.
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Old 04-15-2016, 03:52 PM   #20
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I just remove the drivers side of the Undercover tonneau cover, leave the passenger side on and use the rear view mirror and back up. Have about 1.5" clearance on the passenger side between the pinbox and the tonneau cover.
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