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Old 02-27-2013, 07:48 AM   #11
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I agree with all the posts. Hard decision. If and when the time comes, I will be going f250 with the 6.7 diesel. Maybe f350. But if you go diesel, the fords 6.0 has had issues with head bolts stretching and head gaskets. If you can go newer to 6.4 or even todays 6.7 which is unbelievable. Quiet and strong. The 6.4 and 6.7 use 2 turbos, one at low end and the other kicks in at the higher end. If you need to go older, try to find the 7.3. It is louder but is a workhorse and has been pretty much indestructible. Good Luck.
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Old 02-27-2013, 08:20 AM   #12
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Agreed, gljurczyk. I believe for every 6.0 poster complaining on a forum, there are thousands of happy PSDers out there. I aslo don't believe every V10 get 6-7 MPG like so many V10 owners would have you believe.

Reading your post, myredracer, brings vivid memories of climbing a couple of hills we regularly travel with the 4.6 seemingly begging to stop. I know the Tritons don't mind the high revs, but I can't help but think it's overworking. The V10's here (Northern CA) are quite abundant if you don't mind the entry level truck, crew cab, or a 4x4. We're looking for another 4x2 SCab with at least the PW & PL (not sure if i remember how to operate one of the window cranks anymore ). We'll keep looking. I spent 9 months looking for our current truck. We didn't have a trailer back then, so we weren't in any big rush. But, spring & summer's coming so we do need one soon. We're running to Comanche in April and it's mostly flat. So, the 150 will do that - we still have a little time...

Pkurek, I've been looking for a decent 7.3 without 250K-300K miles. I have a mechanic friend who owns one and swears by them. He also says don't be afraid of the 6.0's - keep them stock and maintained and they'll go for quite some time.
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Old 02-27-2013, 08:20 AM   #13
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I agree with all the posts. Hard decision. If and when the time comes, I will be going f250 with the 6.7 diesel. Maybe f350. But if you go diesel, the fords 6.0 has had issues with head bolts stretching and head gaskets. If you can go newer to 6.4 or even todays 6.7 which is unbelievable. Quiet and strong. The 6.4 and 6.7 use 2 turbos, one at low end and the other kicks in at the higher end. If you need to go older, try to find the 7.3. It is louder but is a workhorse and has been pretty much indestructible. Good Luck.
Only the 6.4 uses 2 turbos (sequential). The 6.7 has a single turbo.
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:45 AM   #14
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I don't buy the "there are thousands of 6.0's out there for every one with problems" for a second. The problems with them were NOT random and rare. Of the 6 or so Ford 6.0 owners I've known and talked to about them, they ALL had major problems. I would say it is rare to meet someone that has had no major problems. I've heard a few accounts on the forums here, but have yet to meet someone with a 6.0 that would say the same. Do what you want, but I'd advise to avoid them like the plague.
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Old 02-27-2013, 10:01 AM   #15
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Hand-calculated fuel mileage with our V10 pulling a 8500 lb 5W is 8-9 mph. Non towing mileage is 12.5 - 14 mpg dependent on city/highway mix...running 87 octane all the time.

A key thing when looking at purchasing used diesel trucks, is finding one that hasn't been 'tuned'. If you check out the 6.0 section of the Ford Truck Enthusiasts forum, there'll be suggestions to make the 6.0 reliable such as head studs and coolant filter. I also understand that some of the the much discussed issues with the 6.0 were less evident in the later productions years...2006/2007.

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Agreed, gljurczyk. I believe for every 6.0 poster complaining on a forum, there are thousands of happy PSDers out there. I aslo don't believe every V10 get 6-7 MPG like so many V10 owners would have you believe.

Reading your post, myredracer, brings vivid memories of climbing a couple of hills we regularly travel with the 4.6 seemingly begging to stop. I know the Tritons don't mind the high revs, but I can't help but think it's overworking. The V10's here (Northern CA) are quite abundant if you don't mind the entry level truck, crew cab, or a 4x4. We're looking for another 4x2 SCab with at least the PW & PL (not sure if i remember how to operate one of the window cranks anymore ). We'll keep looking. I spent 9 months looking for our current truck. We didn't have a trailer back then, so we weren't in any big rush. But, spring & summer's coming so we do need one soon. We're running to Comanche in April and it's mostly flat. So, the 150 will do that - we still have a little time...

Pkurek, I've been looking for a decent 7.3 without 250K-300K miles. I have a mechanic friend who owns one and swears by them. He also says don't be afraid of the 6.0's - keep them stock and maintained and they'll go for quite some time.
Your mechanic friend is correct. I know your feeling. Nobody wants to part with 7.3's. We have 3 at work along with 2 6.0. we tow boats alot and all trucks have min 250 grand on them. My boss just traded his 6.0 in for the new 6.7 and if it didn't cost so much, that would be my choice hands down.
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Old 02-27-2013, 10:27 AM   #17
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A key thing when looking at purchasing used diesel trucks, is finding one that hasn't been 'tuned'. If you check out the 6.0 section of the Ford Truck Enthusiasts forum, there'll be suggestions to make the 6.0 reliable such as head studs and coolant filter. I also understand that some of the the much discussed issues with the 6.0 were less evident in the later productions years...2006/2007.

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I agree with you Dave about the tuner issue- and I've also heard reports of the later 6.0's being better. But who wants to pay the kind of price dealers are asking for 6.0's just to turn around and invest a few thousand dollars on head studs, coolant filter, EGR delete, and, from what I've seen, a myriad of other upgrades that are needed to actually get a 6.0 to function reliably? If you look you can find a lot of low mileage 6.0's out there. My guess is they were in the shop more than they were being driven. And this is coming from a "Ford guy". I still would be very leery of anything with a 6.0. I'm just not sure I could ever bring myself to own one having seen the unbelievable time and expense some close relatives and friends have had to spend dealing with them.
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Hand-calculated fuel mileage with our V10 pulling a 8500 lb 5W is 8-9 mph. Non towing mileage is 12.5 - 14 mpg dependent on city/highway mix...running 87 octane all the time.
And I could probably live with that, Dave. It's not a whole lot less then the 4.6 gets me (15-16 mixed). I just need to find a good, non-commercial, non base model, 4X2 model around here.

Dustman, maybe the "thousands" was a little bit of a stretch. I'm just saying that I don't believe everyone that owns a 6.0 has had major problems with it. And I think there are a lot of good ones out there. I have a contractor friend that drives a '04 every day and hasn't really had a lick of trouble with it. He keeps it maintained and has kept it bone stock. But, I get on line and you would think every single 6.0 owner has mortgaged their house just to keep it on the road.
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And I could probably live with that, Dave. It's not a whole lot less then the 4.6 gets me (15-16 mixed). I just need to find a good, non-commercial, non base model, 4X2 model around here.

Dustman, maybe the "thousands" was a little bit of a stretch. I'm just saying that I don't believe everyone that owns a 6.0 has had major problems with it. And I think there are a lot of good ones out there. I have a contractor friend that drives a '04 every day and hasn't really had a lick of trouble with it. He keeps it maintained and has kept it bone stock. But, I get on line and you would think every single 6.0 owner has mortgaged their house just to keep it on the road.
You do have to take what you read on here with a grain of salt. The people around you have apparently been much luckier on the ones they got than the people I know.
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Old 02-27-2013, 10:50 AM   #20
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Alright, where to start... we have a Salem T25 (~5200# camp ready) and we tow it with a 1998 F150, 4.6 with 3.55 gears, and WD Hitch. It tows pretty good on flat land, but when we hit some of the hills it struggles all the way up. Struggles as in 35 MPH with the engine screaming.

So, we started thinking about upgrading the truck to a F250 (gas or diesel - we're still stuck on that decision). Someone suggested regearing the 150 to 4.10 or 4.30, a viable option. Here, the regearing runs $775 for 4.10's and ~$50 more for the 4.30's. So, now I'm thinking should we spend the cash to regear the truck (and a few more $$$ for maintenance on a couple of things) or use that as part of the down on our original idea, an upgrade. We're not looking at doing 70 up the hills - just keep up with traffic. I would just hate to do the regearing only to find out we've only gained a little more power up the hills.

We're thinking the diesel or V10 because we'll be upgrading the trailer in 4-5 years and don't want to buy another truck at that time, too. We're also looking at used trucks - don't want to spend $35K-45K on it (we're towing with it, not living in the thing ). Has anyone done this regearing on a 4.6? And was it worth it while pulling the trailer up hills?

You mentioned that you were thinking of "upgrading" which I figure means you have 2ft Itise....the need for 2 more feet longer. Then trow in what the wife would really like and it will grow....lol

If you are thinking about upgrading your next issue your going to run into is GVW maxing out or over weight. Your F150 is not going to cut it rear end gears or not. Do some long term thinking and a serious look at what you think your going to get next?! Then look at the weight "wet" and then start looking at what you need for a truck to pull that.

I tried the same way as you, bought a 2500 chevy thinking I could haul my 5er....I am so glad I upgraded my truck..

Hope that help..!
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