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Old 02-27-2013, 10:59 AM   #21
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It's a 4x2, pkurek. And it has been a daily driver for 13 years now without a lick of trouble. Well, I did blow up a pinion bearing in '04, but I had hauled more than it's rated for a few times.
regearing won't solve that problem- it's a sign you need more truck.

And where did you get the idea a V10 gas would be less maintenance than a diesel?

Certain year ford diesels have a bad rep, as do their gas engines (google 'ford spitting plugs')
I've been a ford fan for a long time - but they're just dropped the ball on quality IMO/IME. Talking to chevy owners of MY2000 and up trucks there is practically no issues other than an occasional tranny. Would you like to see the list on my expedition?

If you are set on ford the 5.3 has plenty of power to pull our trailer - even with 236k miles on it. I can accelearte UP hills on the hiway, including 9% grades!
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Old 02-27-2013, 11:49 AM   #22
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regearing won't solve that problem- it's a sign you need more truck.

And where did you get the idea a V10 gas would be less maintenance than a diesel?

Certain year ford diesels have a bad rep, as do their gas engines (google 'ford spitting plugs')
Funny you mention that. I visited my mechanic friend yesterday and he had an E250 he had to fix for that exact reason. I understand the heads were changed after 2002 which eliminated most of the problem. The 4.6 and 5.3 also had this issue - just not as prevalent as the V10. I've changed my plugs and, so far, no issues.

By maintenance, I was referring to the religious nature of the diesel maintenance along with the increased associated costs of oil, filters, etc. Tritons are almost worry, in my experience. Do your normal maintenance and it's generally an excellent engine. I am looking at upgrading more, though. I think you're right about the regearing - it was a thought though. I just have to admit that the thing is a light duty engine and not meant for serious trailer towing. Although, it will haul a ton of fireplace bricks to the dump and a pallet of travertine to a job site.
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Get a F 250-or F 350.. 2011 or newer..i have the 6.7 powerstroke and love it !! look at the towing specs and you will see why ...its so much nicer.. having piece of mind..that .. YOUR .. truck is more than capable to do the job
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Old 02-27-2013, 12:15 PM   #24
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I believe the OP is much like me and a 2011 diesel is probably not in the cards.
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Old 02-27-2013, 12:26 PM   #25
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I believe the OP is much like me and a 2011 diesel is probably not in the cards.
Some people have to run what they can have. Some people don't have to he money for a bigger truck. Higher registration costs, probably higher insurance. And the cost of getting a new truck.

If it is a 2wd, check the boneyards for a whole rear end that may fit. It may be faster and cheaper than a whole gear change.
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Old 02-27-2013, 12:31 PM   #26
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the challenge at this time is the new car production died in 2009-10 so used cars from that period are super scarce - and therefore pricey.

So you either have to be pretty new or new or go old and often still pay a premium for a good, low mileage vehicle. Many folks that would have traded in 09/10 hung on their vehicles so the overall supply of lower mileage rides is in short supply.

But there are deals now on new ones - you can get 8-10k off sticker. Compared to sticker we saved about $11k on our new silverado. And you can get 8 year financing if you need to - not that it's a good choice overall, but you gotta do what you gotta do sometimes. We opted to deplete our savings some and do a 5 year loan through our credit union and max out on all rebates.

Cost of ownership on our last few vehicles (purchase plus big repairs less resale) seems to be about $2k a year for buying used and the truck should be $2500 ish a year (depends of course on it's value when we sell it)
New truck - warranty, no repairs for a few years (that cost us anything) for $500 more a year? Almost a no brainer.
Plus with the chevy we're saving nearly 30% on fuel (12 vs 16mpg)
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Old 02-27-2013, 12:38 PM   #27
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Some people have to run what they can have. Some people don't have to he money for a bigger truck. Higher registration costs, probably higher insurance. And the cost of getting a new truck.
That's why when we bought our trailer we had to buy something under $7k. A 10 year old 236k mile expedition was the best we could do.

We sold our taurus and the expy (soon) and insurance is GOING DOWN - from 2 with liability to one with full coverage!

We've spent close to $3k last year on repairs for the 2 we sold, and the car was needing something...the expy needs tires (1200?) and has other issues that could be addressed (back up alarm doesn't work, seat heaters don't work - who cares, but still). Plus unknowns...put a trans in the expy at the end of the first season we used it ($2k), had the A/C fixed ($300), rust issues (suspension, rad support...$850), ball joint, brakes and rotors (all 4), coil, temp sensor, a/c fan, axle boots, rear main brake line ($285!)...
I'd rather know I"m paying $423 every month and the truck will go and be safe than not really being sure I'll get home (brake line, coil on plug) or what it may cost me (fuel pump can run $1500 on an expy)

YMMV.
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Old 02-27-2013, 12:43 PM   #28
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You should be fine in a 1\2 ton truck if you get one with a bigger V8, I pulled our Surveyor 261T roughly 6800#s with my Silverado SS, 6.0 V8, AWD, 4.10 gears and it's like it's not even there. My wife's Nissan Armada, 5.6V8, 2WD, 2.93 gears, doesn't pull it as well as the truck but can still maintain hwy speed with no problem, even on hills. My uncle has a 97 F-150 FX4 with the 5.4V8, pulling a 27' Keystone and it has no problems with maintaining hwy speed or hills either.
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Old 02-27-2013, 12:49 PM   #29
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Our old 2000 F150 V6 has been the most reliable vehicle I have ever owned. Way better than 2 Toyotas we've had (1 car, 1 truck) and better than our current '7 Subaru. The only time our truck has let us down is last summer on an 1,800 mile trip towing the TT and we had to get the water pump and faulty oil sender replaced and we also had to replace the front calipers. Seems like towing a 5,000 lb TT was hard on some components. Zero mech. issues until then. During the 10 years I've owned this truck, I have had many tons and loads of building materials and other stuff in it. It's simply not a towing vehicle (with V6) unless all you wanted to do is do a 15 min. drive on the flat to your favorite cg. I will really miss it though...

From what I have read, somewhere along the way, Ford quality fell off. I've also read that in '09, Ford made improvements in quality and added a lot more features to their trucks because the competition was leaving them behind. Is it true they no longer offer a V10? For those that don't really want a diesel, they're gonna hafta get one if they need the extra towing capacity?

My BIL owns an auto parts shop so we are lucky to be able to get a big break on the cost of parts if and when we need any. Parts from a Ford dealer are just so high. I imagine all dealers are the same. Wish I had a factory manual along with part numbers so I could shop on the internet, but the factory manuals alone are very expensive.

The new trucks are so danged expensive. Don't see anything wrong in getting a used one as long as it has low mileage. Even if we wanted to, DW being an accountant wouldn't allow a new one, unless of course it was her vehicle. Maybe a person could talk to a dealer and get a lease return lined up to purchase? They should be looked after better too. Our "new" truck is a fleet lease return.
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Old 02-27-2013, 12:57 PM   #30
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Ford doesn't offer a V10, but gm did away with their big block 8.1l v8 as well. Fords newer 6.2l gasser has plenty if grunt from what I've heard, but i am partial (right now) to our V10.
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