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Old 08-23-2016, 10:28 PM   #11
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I was asked by the dealer if I wanted it registered personal or commercial, I said personal because that is what it is used for simple really, why do people make problems where there was none.
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Old 08-24-2016, 06:46 AM   #12
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I was asked by the dealer if I wanted it registered personal or commercial, I said personal because that is what it is used for simple really, why do people make problems where there was none.
Technically, in Ontario, all pickups are registered as commercial vehicles. Look at your ownership and it will have "COM" on the top of it signifying it's registered as a commercial vehicle despite what you told your dealer. The ownership on my F-150 has that.

Now, if you don't ever use it for commercial purposes you are automatically exempt from all the commercial vehicle rules except the annual inspection rules. From what I've read, whether or not you have to do annual inspections depends on the registered weight of the truck and if you're towing a trailer weighing more than 6171#. Your trailer will weigh more than 6171# loaded so an MTO officer could fine you if they weigh you when you're towing if you don't have the annual inspection sticker, but what's the chance that you'd ever get inspected? Slim.
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We registered our truck under the combined weight level. We have a one ton. You are exempt because you are towing a recreational rig. My husband asked our mechanic what a yearly inspection would cost. It is minimal as long as everything is OK. But wouldn't you want to know that anyway? He gets the yellow sticker.

A friend who tows a fifth wheel was stopped when he was towing his enclosed motorcycle trailer with his dually. He was asked where his yellow sticker was? He said I tow a 5th wheel so I am exempt. Only when you are towing the rig was the reply. He had to get both truck and trailer inspected. Beware.
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Not sure where you get these info, I live in Quebec and own a F 350, no need to get an inspection because It is registered as a personal vehicle, for leisure or a similar category. The key is that the dealer put the right info on the registration papers. My GVWR is 11500 lbs.


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Eagle2405, Quebec is an entirely different jurisdiction so what they do may be different.

I just talked to a guy at the nearest highway weigh scale house operated by MTO enforcement and he confirmed what the dealer is telling me. I'm exempt from the CVOR, daily inspections and log book requirements because its a personal use vehicle, but if you're towing a trailer that weighs more than 6171#, you need to have the yellow sticker saying you passed an annual inspection.

That's what you need to do to be legal. So all you folks in Ontario that pull 5ers and longer TTs are running illegal if you don't have the yellow sticker. Before this I had no idea that was the case.

I guess it would only be a problem if you get pulled over but the dealer has already gone ahead and registered my new truck with a RGW of 6,811 kg to account for the truck/TT combination.

Does anyone know the actual curb weight of an F250 with the 6.2L gas engine? All I know is the GVWR is 4491 kg (9900#) and the brochure says the curb weight is 1361 kg (3000#).
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Eagle2405, Quebec is an entirely different jurisdiction so what they do may be different.

I just talked to a guy at the nearest highway weigh scale house operated by MTO enforcement and he confirmed what the dealer is telling me. I'm exempt from the CVOR, daily inspections and log book requirements because its a personal use vehicle, but if you're towing a trailer that weighs more than 6171#, you need to have the yellow sticker saying you passed an annual inspection.

That's what you need to do to be legal. So all you folks in Ontario that pull 5ers and longer TTs are running illegal if you don't have the yellow sticker. Before this I had no idea that was the case.

I guess it would only be a problem if you get pulled over but the dealer has already gone ahead and registered my new truck with a RGW of 6,811 kg to account for the truck/TT combination.

Does anyone know the actual curb weight of an F250 with the 6.2L gas engine? All I know is the GVWR is 4491 kg (9900#) and the brochure says the curb weight is 1361 kg (3000#).
The 2011 Lariat CC 4x4 6.2 in my sig weighs 7332 lbs with a full tank of gas and no one in it. I weighed it at a truck weigh scale.
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No kidding. And having a dealer who doesn't research it.
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If you're truck is registered over 4500kg and you are towing only your camper trailer you are exempt. As soon as you put a utility trailer back there and are over 10000lbs you will get a fine.


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The 2011 Lariat CC 4x4 6.2 in my sig weighs 7332 lbs with a full tank of gas and no one in it. I weighed it at a truck weigh scale.
Sorry, I gave a wrong number for the "brochure curb weight". 3000# is the published payload number. Ford doesn't seem to publish the "base curb weight" but they do specifically say "Payload = GVWR - Base Curb Weight" so Base Curb Weight = GVWR - Payload = 9900-3000 = 6900# for a CC with the gas engine. It seems reasonable for your Lariat trim to add 432#. My XLT would probably be closer to 375# over base weight.
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