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Old 08-22-2016, 01:24 PM   #1
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Registering a 3/4 Ton Pickup in Ontario

I just signed a deal to trade in my F-150 for a new 2016 F-250 XLT CCSB. The Ford dealer is telling me that I have to have it registered as a "commercial vehicle for personal use" and get a safety inspection done annually. That's an expense and nuisance I wasn't aware of.

Are other members in Ontario, Canada with a 3/4 ton or 1 ton pickup having to do this? What's involved?
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Register it under 10000 lb gvwr and you won't have to have a safety done every year. Anything over that has to have one.
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Old 08-22-2016, 03:20 PM   #3
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Register it under 10000 lb gvwr and you won't have to have a safety done every year. Anything over that has to have one.
X2 (less than 4500 kg)
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Here is the official document from the good old Ontario Gov't.

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http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/tru...-faq.shtml#a15

If you have an F250 it will have a GVWR of no more than 10k (4500KG) anyway so you should have no issues. I would also suggest calling a motor vehicle office if you are in doubt.
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Old 08-22-2016, 05:13 PM   #5
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I'm confused.

According to the MTO website that SaskCampers linked to, if the trailer weighs more than 6171#, you have to register the combined weights of the truck and trailer as the "Registered Gross Weight" (RGW). See the answer to Q#16 at the bottom of the page.

BUT, if you look at the answer to Q#15, it seems to say it's only a "Commercial Motor Vehicle" if it has "an actual or registered gross weight of more than 4,500 kg."

The yellow sticker on the side of the trailer says it has a dry weight of 6165# (6# under the threshold but obviously a lot more fully loaded for camping - that's 7300#) and the truck's GVWR is 9900#, which is less than 4500 kg. So does that mean it's not to be classified as a Commercial Motor Vehicle and not subject to the inspections?
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Here is the official document from the good old Ontario Gov't.

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Commercial vehicle “Frequently asked questions"

If you have an F250 it will have a GVWR of no more than 10k (4500KG) anyway so you should have no issues. I would also suggest calling a motor vehicle office if you are in doubt.
I re-read through the exemption document that SaskCamper posted and found the actual Act online. I'm confident that I'm exempt since I'm using the truck for personal purposes only and its GVWR is less than 4500 kg.

I've got a call in to the local MTO carrier enforcement office and I'll confirm this if they call me back.

Thanks for your help guys.
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Register it under 10000 lb gvwr and you won't have to have a safety done every year. Anything over that has to have one.
X3 Less then 4500Kg, it is the same for Quebec.
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I just received my new RAM 2500 and this is what the dealer told me when I ordered my truck. There were 2 options in the option tab, one is GVWR at 4490 kg (9900 lb) or GVWR at 4535 KG (10000 lb), the 10000 lb option will make it a commercial truck and will need to be inspected/safety every year and I am not sure if you can change the GVWR at the registration bureau. I ordered mine with a GVWR of 9900 lb and still paid 235.00 to get my license sticker, but no inspection.
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Register it under 10000 lb gvwr and you won't have to have a safety done every year. Anything over that has to have one.
X3. You will still pay over $200 a year for your tag, but no inspection.
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I still haven't heard back from MTO. I'll try calling them again tomorrow. The dealer salesperson says he talked to MTO Carrier Enforcement today and was given the same answer that I posted above re Q#16, that is, he was told to register the truck with a Registered Gross Weight (RGW) to cover the combined weight and I'd be subject to annual inspections and have to display the yellow inspection sticker.

The only thing I know for sure so far is that I'm exempt from the CVOR, daily inspection and daily log rules because its a personal vehicle.

While not towing, there's no issue. I'll be well under 4500 kg. Has anybody ever been pulled over by an MTO officer while towing their camper trailer? Am I right that this is a matter of the risk that I could be pulled over for weighing on the side of the road?
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