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Old 03-14-2011, 03:31 PM   #11
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I second buying a newer used deisel, new ones are way over priced IMO. There are good used ones out there that will fit your needs and still outlast a new gas truck. I paid 19k for mine when it was 5 years old and had 70k on the odo. The truck had never towed anything, looks like new inside and out and is considered low mileage for a Cummins. I raise the B.S. flag at higher maintenance costs. Yes my truck holds 3 gallons of oil and I need to change the fuel filter at oil changes but when your changing the oil only once every 10-15,000 miles it's the same if not cheaper.
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Old 03-14-2011, 04:18 PM   #12
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Agreed with the Newer used Trucks, I hate to say it, but in the times we are in, there are alot of Repo's out there that you could get Cheap, Look around and You would be surprized at what you find.
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Old 03-14-2011, 04:36 PM   #13
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have question looking at the horsepower vs torque maybe silly question but some of the hp ratins are close but huge difference in torque does this only make a difference when starting off or does torque play in while in cruise mode
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Old 03-14-2011, 04:38 PM   #14
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Since it is a mainly a commuter, then go for the gas. Diesels aren't real fond of not being warmed up. If you are commuting, I doubt you would have the patience to wait twice a day. And diesels really aren't meant for short trips, as they barely get warmed up in 12 miles!
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Old 03-14-2011, 04:45 PM   #15
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I keep hearing all this baoney about higher maitenance cost with a diesel. Just don't see it? What extra cost? Are you talking about the extra oil? Or is it the spark plugs? Oh that's right, none in a diesel. If keep a new truck for as long as the last one, get a 1 ton diesel and enjoy it.
I hope you are not talking about the 6.0 or the 6.4 diesel. The 7.3l diesel was a geat motor. The 6l motors make excellent boat anchors. They have injector problems, egr cooler problems, wiring issues, A/C issues to mention a few, especially in the van bodies. We have several 6.4L F350's in our fleet that get rough service and have had to replace 3 and overhaul one. One was at 38000 miles and the rest werejust over 100000 miles. Good diesel techs are very few and hard to find. And repair cost, ouch. Injectors are $526 a copy. A/c compressors are $484. An egr cooler is about $1200 and all are plus labor. If you are going 10000 or 15000 miles between changes, it would be a very good idea to use a quality synthetic oil like Kendall and have it sent out for sample testing.
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Old 03-14-2011, 05:41 PM   #16
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Crocus, That's no lie, I drive 25 miles one way mostly interstate to work, it takes at least 10 miles for the needle to come off cold LOL!!!

Riocicero, All conventional, sythetic does nothing more for contamination than conventional oils and conventional oils don't break down like they did in the old days. Besides, I'm just going by the owners manual. 7500 miles for rough duty, 15,000 for light duty. I tow a couple times a month for a couple hundred miles at a time so I figure I fall in the middle(which is still probably overkill).
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Old 03-14-2011, 05:59 PM   #17
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Flip a coin.
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Old 03-14-2011, 06:00 PM   #18
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Probably the only coin you'll have left if you buy a diesel.
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If you do end up getting the 250, look at the 350. For the same and sometimes lower price you get more payload and tow capacity.
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Old 03-15-2011, 01:09 AM   #20
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newer used diesel. sure oil changes are 100$+ a shot but no plugs and wires etc.

as for a turbo.. its up to you if you want one. its better for towing and for hills but it could be one more thing to go wrong.
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