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Old 03-14-2011, 11:23 AM   #1
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Looking for opions on what to do. I purchased my 1999 ford super duty 13 years ago. Went on many vactions up and down the east coast. Mainly with a 26 ft tt. Couple years ago upgraded to a 28ft fifth wheel. (30ft actual) While the truck does pull it ok, She is lacking the power under the hood. Doing it with a 5.4L with auto trans. like I said does the job but I have to drive by the tach which creates stress at times. (Some or these little 4 wheelers just don't get it). Anyway looking at the new fords f250 super duty with the 6.2L and 6 speed trans rated for 12,000 lbs. tow cap. Would you go with this or go desiel. Less maintance with gas and quieter, but they say diesel still better which I believe but is really worth the extra cash if the gasser will do the same job (not quite as easy though). Any one have the new 6.2L ford?
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Old 03-14-2011, 11:32 AM   #2
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If the truck is mainly for pulling the camper, go diesel.
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Old 03-14-2011, 12:08 PM   #3
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IMO 8-12k extra just to pull a camper a few times a year is a huge waste of $$. A gasser will do just fine. You have to drive one god awefull pile of miles to make up the difference in price for the amount you save on fuel. That and the increased costs of maint on the diesel. Now if you are pulling heavy loads most of the time, well then the game changes. Sure a gasser works harder but with the modern 6 speed tranny in the new Ford they make up for alot with gearing. Read the tests on pickuptruck.com and see for yourself.
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Old 03-14-2011, 12:53 PM   #4
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I keep hearing all this baoney about higher maitenance cost with a diesel. Just don't see it? What extra cost? Are you talking about the extra oil? Or is it the spark plugs? Oh that's right, none in a diesel. If keep a new truck for as long as the last one, get a 1 ton diesel and enjoy it.
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Old 03-14-2011, 12:59 PM   #5
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Last time I checked both Ford and Dodge wanted over 100 bux for an oil change on a diesel and 40 for a gasser. Ford dealer even recomended not buying a diesel for casual towing but hey if you got $$$ to throw around might just as well buy a used Volvo road tractor with a 500hp cummins with an auto, remove one set of drivers and be done with the issue of what you can tow. Makes about as much sense for hauling a 28ft 5ver.
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Old 03-14-2011, 01:18 PM   #6
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Last time I checked both Ford and Dodge wanted over 100 bux for an oil change on a diesel and 40 for a gasser. Ford dealer even recomended not buying a diesel for casual towing but hey if you got $$$ to throw around might just as well buy a used Volvo road tractor with a 500hp cummins with an auto, remove one set of drivers and be done with the issue of what you can tow. Makes about as much sense for hauling a 28ft 5ver.
Any IMHO anyone that goes to the dealer for anything but warranty work is looking to be taken to the cleaners. While my diesel takes 12 quarts of oil per change vs 5 quarts for a gas motor, I also loose spark plugs, plug wires, distributor and lack of enough power to tow my trailer. I can also get 2 to 3 MPG better economy while towing and 3 to 5 MPG better non towing mileage. So, where is the much higher maintenance costs for a diesel? Like I said before I just don't see it. Except banter from non diesel owners.
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Old 03-14-2011, 01:23 PM   #7
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Have you considered looking for a 1 or 2 year old, low mileage, F250 with a diesel engine?
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Old 03-14-2011, 01:31 PM   #8
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I've pulled extensively with both gas and diesel. Either truck, properly equipped, will do the job for you. Here are a few thoughts that have occurred to me over the years:
A) Initial and maintenance costs
B) Diesel fuel is not always as readily available but, if you can fuel at truck stops, maneuverability is a lot better with a trailer in tow
C) It is easier, with a diesel, to add an auxiliary (in-bed) tank for increased range
D) Diesel mechanics are sometimes rather scarce in out-of-the-way places.

I guess it all boils down to what works best for you. My bias is to stick with gas for everyday use and occasional towing. If I were a full timer and doing a lot of interstate driving, especially in mountainous areas, I'd opt for a diesel.
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Old 03-14-2011, 01:38 PM   #9
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I agree with Sacks the gross wt of the fiver is 11,500 well within the specs, ya I realize you have to watch the total wts. And if you go by the wts a tundra will out tow my superduty (maybe for one trip). I for one still change my oil every 3000-3500 miles which is 3 times a yr. use the truck for commuter also (12 mile commute). Now my 99 I have towed trailers up to 12000 lbs according to ford Im rated at 9,000 for 5er. Im also still with the original drive train just have to respect it alittle. when the new tow standards come out it will be good to compare apples for apples. As for tune ups agee both the same but a 7.3 ford diesel takes almost 4 gall. to change oil. But as you see Im keep a truck for awhile. Iwould take the 5er on a trip today across country if I could get the time off with the 99 but I know it would be slow over the mountains.

Don't want to start gas vs diesel war but trying to make an educated decesion up untill this yr I would of gone diesel with out even thinking about it but being a ford guy and looking at the 2011 6.2 l makes one take a step back and think.
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Old 03-14-2011, 02:59 PM   #10
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"I can also get 2 to 3 MPG better economy while towing and 3 to 5 MPG better non towing mileage." from donn
if only that much better go with the gas,
I know you will need to change fuel filters regularly and also the oil changes are more expensive. cost of diesel should be a trade.
will you have to have an engine block heater where your at. been there won't do that again.

ultimately you decide on the truck/engine you want
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