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Old 10-11-2012, 09:38 PM   #41
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Well you are already looking in the right direction. I'm a 3rd gen. GM tech- other makes may be good as well (not really) but at least me and the guys I know can fix what I drive!!
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Old 10-11-2012, 11:00 PM   #42
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Sorry to confuse you about "Curb Payload"; it has been that kind of day.

I was referring to the "pillar payload" which is what is left when the "as built" weight (referred to as "curb Weight" - which is not on the pillar) is subtracted from the maximum gross weight of the vehicle (which is).

I hope that clears it up.
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Old 10-12-2012, 01:05 AM   #43
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Hitting the scales is like balancing your checkbook instead of estimating. It's better to unveil the unknown and deal with actual numbers so you know where you stand.

Believe me I do understand how all this stuff is confusing. I also know that some sales staff are more carefree in what they consider to be OK towing.
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Old 10-14-2012, 07:58 PM   #44
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I have been taking all of is in, so right now the GM book is telling me " under Fifth-wheel Trailing" to pay careful attention to the trucks... PAYLOAD CAPACITY and REAR AXLE WEIGHT RATING.

PAYLOAD IS 1,921 lbs
REAR AXLE WEIGHT RATING IS 4,200 lbs

With is info the book is telling me to contact a GM dealer to help calculate the max allowable payload and GVWR required for the 5th wheel trailering application. The powertrain combination would also maximumize the trailering rating.

Powertrain: 6.0 gas engine-4:10 Rear-4 speed heavy duty trans with a heavy duty tow package, including a brake controller from the factory.
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Old 10-14-2012, 08:08 PM   #45
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I have been taking all of is in, so right now the GM book is telling me " under Fifth-wheel Trailing" to pay careful attention to the trucks... PAYLOAD CAPACITY and REAR AXLE WEIGHT RATING.

PAYLOAD IS 1,921 lbs
REAR AXLE WEIGHT RATING IS 4,200 lbs

With is info the book is telling me to contact a GM dealer to help calculate the max allowable payload and GVWR required for the 5th wheel trailering application. The powertrain combination would also maximumize the trailering rating.

Powertrain: 6.0 gas engine-4:10 Rear-4 speed heavy duty trans with a heavy duty tow package, including a brake controller from the factory.
I would be curious to see what they charge you for what you are getting here for free.
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Old 10-14-2012, 08:47 PM   #46
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I would be curious to see what they charge you for what you are getting here for free.

Nice quote!!
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Old 10-14-2012, 09:29 PM   #47
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I would be curious to see what they charge you for what you are getting here for free.
herk, I know where you are coming from, and you know when it come to doing the right thing and being safe not only to protect my family and everyone else that is on the road in front or behined me there is no price when it comes to safety.
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Old 10-14-2012, 09:37 PM   #48
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herk, I know where you are coming from, and you know when it come to doing the right thing and being safe not only to protect my family and everyone else that is on the road in front or behined me there is no price when it comes to safety.
Now THAT is a nice quote too.
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There is no price when it comes to safety.

That's a fact!!
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Payload figures can be misleading. According to Ford, my truck weighs 5236 lbs .....that is what is on the certificate of origin. With a GVWR of 7200 lbs, Ford says I have a payload of 1964 lbs. But going across the scales, my truck weighs in around 6000 lbs. with me in the seat for a 1200 lb. cargo carrying capacity. Now I have added a bed liner, TracRac rails, my personal gear in the cab, the Reese hitch and a small portable tool box in the bed. Subtracting my ~190 lbs., there is no way that the add-ons weigh in at ~ 600 lbs. (6000 - 190 - 5236). I wish I would have weighed my truck coming from the dealer just to see the true empty weight.
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