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Old 07-15-2013, 04:42 PM   #11
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Looks it but I need to measure. Is the object to return the TT to the original height?
We always got the tv and tt level and made sure we had good hd shocks on all 4 corners of the tv. I also recommend air bags, always had either airbags or air shocks. The do make a big difference.
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the height of the ball is only going to affect the "levelness" of the trailer... I always try to get the truck leveled and then figure out where the ball needs to be on the shank.
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OK. So ball height on TV, not a big deal.

If I'm to return the TV to unloaded height, how does that but enough weight on the rear springs?
Or maybe I'm not understanding.
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Old 07-15-2013, 04:55 PM   #14
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Ball height is going to adjust the level of the trailer.. so no it's not that big of deal for the truck... If you are returning the truck back to unloaded height you are almost certainly creating too much torsion with the w/d bars... I would suggest dropping down a chain link or two and trying that to see if it rides better. Creating too much torsion there will just turn the hitch into a spring, and every time you hit a bump it will bounce as a spring would...
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The manual for my truck (yes as a matter of fact I did read it) says to measure the front wheel well height with no load. Connect trailer and measure top of wheel well. Adjust chains to take half the rise out. They indicate this will give you correct weight distribution. I don't understand WDH theory but this always worked for us. Bought a fifth wheel last fall so not a problem anymore. I did take OldCoots advice and got airbags and found they do make the ride very nice.
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Old 07-15-2013, 05:56 PM   #16
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OK. That makes sense.

I'm at 6 chain links between bar and the cleat mounted on the trailer frame. Originally I was at 5.
I'll hook up and take new measurements to make sure we have accurate #s to work with.

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Ball height is going to adjust the level of the trailer.. so no it's not that big of deal for the truck... If you are returning the truck back to unloaded height you are almost certainly creating too much torsion with the w/d bars... I would suggest dropping down a chain link or two and trying that to see if it rides better. Creating too much torsion there will just turn the hitch into a spring, and every time you hit a bump it will bounce as a spring would...
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Old 07-15-2013, 08:29 PM   #17
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It's possible you need to let it squat a little more to allow it to sit on the over load springs ...
Isn't that what the WDH is supposed to eliminate?
If the truck is down on the overloads, with all of the weight hanging off the back bumper, won't the front end be so high as to make steering uncomfortable?
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Old 07-15-2013, 08:40 PM   #18
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TV and TT attached to each other:
(Attached camper, set WD bars on 6th chain lug.)
Bars are near level with ground.
Truck rear height now 34. Front 34.75.

Did not measure height of coupler and hitch ball when the TT is attached to the TV.

I hope that clears things up.
I just installed a new Equal-i-zer hitch and I think after you set the hitch height you need 3 more measurements.

Ground to inside top of fender, front and back wheels.

A. Without the TT hooked up. Truck loaded as it would be for travel.
B. With TT hooked up, no WD bars and tong jack off the ground.
C. With TT hooked up, WD bars in place and tong jack off the ground.

You need the front "C" measurement to be the same as or slightly higher than the front "A" measurement. The rear "C" measurement should be between the rear "A" and "B", much closer to "A" and never higher than rear "A".

I'm sure you know there is no "perfect" set-up, just as close as you can get it.
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There is not enough tongue weight try it without the WD hitch as it might be making it worse.
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Thanks for all the help, I appreciate the feedback. My little popup didnt require more then a antisway.

I went to the store and a nice flat parking lot and remeasured and reset.

Heights are as follows - No TT: TT no WD: TT w\WD
Rear center - 21 5\8 : 19 1\4 : 21
Front center - 25 3\8 : 26 1\4 : 25 1\2

I measured the wheel wells but looking at my notes I cant make sense of it.

I'm on the 7th link from the bar. Bars point down just a hair. I could get one side on the 6th link but the other was difficult. I may be able to pick the trailer up a bit more, get both on 6th. Can try

I measured the wheel wells but looking at my notes I cant make sense of it.

On the way home it porpoised a bit but was really noticeable when I let off the gas.
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