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Old 05-31-2013, 07:43 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by Kcompt01 View Post
The dealer knows what we have and says its fine but I need some things to show him or people with experience with this.
A dealer will say just about anything to sell a trailer.

That is a lot of trailer for a mid-sized pickup.

As others have suggested, load up the family and expected cargo, and get the truck weighed. Subtract that weight from the GVWR.....that should be listed on the truck door. See if you have another 700 lbs. or so of available payload for the trailer tongue.

Also, check out the sticker on the hitch to make sure it can handle the tongue weight. A 12% tongue weight on a 6000 lb. camper is 720 lbs.

The 11,100 lb. figure stated is probably the GVWR. That is the total weight of the truck and trailer. If the truck comes in at 6000 lbs loaded for camping, then that means you can only have a 5,100 lb. camper. Heavier truck, less trailer.


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Old 05-31-2013, 07:53 AM   #12
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Old 05-31-2013, 08:00 AM   #13
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ChooChoo said I should post so here I am. anaro and MtnGuy both are spot on the money. You need to load the truck up like a normal camping trip and get weighed.

I haven't looked at specs, but it sounds like a lot of trailer and a smaller truck. To me, this is when staying within your ratings is the most important.

And sadly, the dealers aren't going to get into details. My sister has a very close friend that I'm trying to have this exact discussion with (long camper, SUV and a big 5-personal family); there's no way she's going to be within weight limits - but, "we told the dealer what we were towing with and they're the experts".

Please to get weighed. It'll tell you so much.
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Old 05-31-2013, 09:18 AM   #14
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Your current set up is doable with a good WDH with sway control, preferably built in. One thing to consider is how you camp. For example, do you drive somewhere then stay for several days to a week or are you on the move often.

My point is, if you are a go and stay type camper then if you have to drive 60 to feel safe, what's the big deal. So it takes you an extra hour or so to get to your destination, you're going to be there for a week, so what's a couple of extra hours on the road compared to the time you spend in the trailer you like.
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Old 05-31-2013, 09:41 AM   #15
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A generalized rule of thumb for tow vehicle wheelbase to trailer length is:

The first 110" of wheelbase allows 20' of trailer. Each additional 4" of wheelbase allows an additional 1' of trailer.

Please note, this formula does not factor the weight of the trailer at all.

Based on this formula alone, your Tacoma's 127" wheelbase allows a 24' trailer. Which I personally would not trust as this same formula says my 2500 Suburban is allowed a 25 foot trailer.

The GVWR for your Tacoma is 4900#. My suburban GVWR is 8600.

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Old 05-31-2013, 09:54 AM   #16
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Without an actual loaded weight on your current truck - we are forced to more or less guess. The problem is that not very many people can accurately predict the weight of their vehicle when loaded. In your case a few pounds one way or the other can (and probably will) make a huge difference.

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Old 05-31-2013, 09:56 AM   #17
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Originally Posted by jeeplj8 View Post
Without an actual loaded weight on your current truck - we are forced to more or less guess. The problem is that not very many people can accurately predict the weight of their vehicle when loaded. In your case a few pounds one way or the other can (and probably will) make a huge difference.
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Old 05-31-2013, 09:58 AM   #18
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Let me throw in my $0.02 worth. At one time we used to tow an Outback 23RS with a 2004 4Runner. 4Runners are based on a Taco chassis, so underneath they are very similar. In terms of trailer, our Outback and your Mini-lite are very similar in length and weight. In terms of TV, the 4Runner had a slight edge in GVW and tow capacity (7000#), and had a V8 (4.7L). Your Taco has an edge in the wheelbase department, which is very important. (127" vs 110") We had a Husky round bar WDH and friction sway bar on the 4Runner. That all said, I can't say I was ever comfortable towing the 23RS. I usually kept the speed down to 60, and always had to be on the lookout for passing trucks, etc. We towed that combination for 4 years, and fortunately never had any mishaps or scary moments. Would I do it again? NO. So my advice to you would be: Yes, you can tow it with the Taco, but every trip would be a white knuckle experience. And FYI, once we moved up to the Tundra Crewmax, towing that Outback became a piece of cake. Made all the difference in the world.

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Old 05-31-2013, 10:07 AM   #19
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I need some help here we have a Toyota Tacoma 2008 v6 double cab short bed with a factory towing package that can tow 6500 total with a gross 11,100. Looking to buy the Rockwood mini light 2504 which weighs 4124 dry weight + options. We are concerned about the length and weight of the trailer is it safe? My husband is really concerned about sway. We will be taking it through grades up to 6% at times. Should we get something else smaller? Thanks for the help.
We went through a similar siuation. Bought a used 3000lb dry weight trailer and needed to get a truck. Was sure I coiuld get away with a smaller truck. But after much review of this site and posting like you have, we decided an a used 1/2 ton truck with trailer towing package, bigger enfgine, axle ratio, etc. I was sure I had bought too big a truck but it was a great deal from a family member. Now I am so glad I have a bigger truck. If your husband is going to worry all the time, like I do then, get a bigger truck. I don't think getting a smaller trailer for your family will be very comfortable. Ours is 19 feet and just the 2 of us and it feels small, cause it is!

Towing is a breeze. We used to pull a tent trailer with an SUV at its limit and I was never comfortable and we went very slow!

I think I've read most "experts" recommend not exceeding 2/3 of your truck's maximum tow capacity, one even said 1/2 is more appropriate.

Absolutely ignore the dealer's advice!!!
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Old 05-31-2013, 11:08 AM   #20
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One thing to remember, not everyone is the same. I started towing race cars when I was a kid, and towed anything from open single car trailers to 32' hitch mount to 42 foot fifth wheels. I feel comfortable with my setup because I have been doing it for a while (granted I took a long break.)

If you are new, you want to feel comfortable with your setup. When I rented to see if the rest of the family would like camping, the 24 footer was a leaning experience with my TV. I realized that I should have a better hitch, smaller trailer, and better tires. I did all 3.

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