Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-07-2015, 10:34 AM   #11
Who Dares, Wins
 
doc73's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Chester County, PA
Posts: 4,821
Did he say what truck? Other than just f250?

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G870A using Tapatalk
__________________

__________________

Pat, Jen & Heather... Oh yeah and our trained attack trailer cat, Cinnamon-EOW 11/22/2017
2015 ChevyHD D-Max
2018 Artic Wolf 315tbh8
doc73 is offline  
Old 12-07-2015, 10:44 AM   #12
Senior Member
 
Kenny kustom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 3,340
Quote:
Originally Posted by doc73 View Post
Did he say what truck? Other than just f250?

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G870A using Tapatalk

He said he was going to use a slider.
So, short box?


2016 Sabre 36QBOK
2015 Ram 3500 CUMMINS
__________________

__________________
2017 Dynamax Isata 4
Kenny kustom is offline  
Old 12-07-2015, 10:52 AM   #13
Mod free 5er
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Concord, NC
Posts: 24,215
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenny kustom View Post
Well, there isn't really a question....

According to the instructions, with a short bed, there's only one place to put it.


2016 Sabre 36QBOK
2015 Ram 3500 CUMMINS
The question was directly over the axle, 1-1/2" ahead or 3" ahead. There is plenty of room to put the hitch either on ahead or behind the axle even in a 6.5' bed.
__________________
OldCoot is offline  
Old 12-07-2015, 10:54 AM   #14
Senior Member
 
Kenny kustom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 3,340
When I put the rails in my 2008.
There was no option.
Instructions said, put it here.

I put it there.


2016 Sabre 36QBOK
2015 Ram 3500 CUMMINS
__________________
2017 Dynamax Isata 4
Kenny kustom is offline  
Old 12-07-2015, 11:02 AM   #15
Senior Member
 
Kenny kustom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 3,340
I also used the no drill brackets.

That could be why there was no location option on mine.


2016 Sabre 36QBOK
2015 Ram 3500 CUMMINS
__________________
2017 Dynamax Isata 4
Kenny kustom is offline  
Old 12-07-2015, 11:17 AM   #16
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 484
OP, put the hitch where the installation instructions mandate. In my experience, that will be directly over or a hair forward of the axle.
__________________
phillyg is offline  
Old 12-07-2015, 11:56 AM   #17
Pickin' & Campin'
 
5picker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: South Western PA
Posts: 4,989
Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterThePlumber View Post
Good Morning All,
So my question is specifically for the Ford driver/owners out there. Where; in relation to the rear axle; did you set up the center of the fifth wheel hitch? ie Directly over the axle, 1.5", 3" ahead of the axle, etc and why. How do you think it affects the ride?

I've settled on a Trailersaver TS3, with a Simpleslide for our 2007 F250; pulling a 2014 Palomino Sabre 36QS2B7; and would like to know how others have set up theirs and how it worked out. We are going with in the bed rails. Once that is set up we wil be going on a shakedown cruise and; among other things; deciding whether to install airbags or Timbrens. Thanks in advance!
Peter,

My hitch is installed with the pin directly over the axle.
For my hitch/rails, that position evenly locates the pin weight dead center on the springs that ultimately carry that weight.

I always use my trucks for hauling a lot of other things besides towing my 5th wheel. In my experience when carrying other heavy loads, (pallets of heavy material) in the truck bed, I don't believe 1.5" ahead of the axle will have much bearing on the suspension characteristics and probably not 3" either.

I've toyed around moving a pallet forward and back of the axle by small amounts with little difference in handling. Now certainly if you move that weight clear to the front or clear to the back of the bed that is another story but that's not what we are talking here.

I think the clear advantage to the pin directly over the axle is, it gives you the maximum spacing between the cab and front of the 5th wheel for turning. With that said, I bought a slider hitch but have never slid it with any of my 6.5 beds. Never got in a tight enough spot in 10 years to do so. (3 different trucks/2 different 5th wheels)

Also, I have Timbrens on mine. Unless you go with an on-board compressor system for air bags, you spend more time adding or removing air for my liking.


EDIT:
I should also add...
I've never driven a truck/5th wheel with the pin 1.5" or 3" ahead of the axle so I can't attest to the driving/handling. I will say mine tows straight as an arrow and if moving the pin forward would make mine handle better... that would really be doing something because mine has always handled like a dream.
__________________
_________________________________________
2016 Flagstaff 8529IKBS Diamond Package 5th Wheel
2017 Ford F-Series SCREW 4x4
TST Tire Monitor w/Repeater - Sinemate 3500w Gen.
Days Camped: '15=22 '16=46 '17=30
5picker is online now  
Old 12-07-2015, 12:34 PM   #18
Senior Member
 
Witch Doctor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Clarksville Va.
Posts: 7,615
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenny kustom View Post
Well, there isn't really a question....

According to the instructions, with a short bed, there's only one place to put it.


2016 Sabre 36QBOK
2015 Ram 3500 CUMMINS
That is not true at all. I just had my rails installed on a 2007 f-250, because of the frame change they had to move it a little forward of the axle, my 2004 it was installed over the axle. Impossible to do with the change. Tows just fine. A 250 will tow the same as a 350 if you squat add air bags, but I don't even think that will happen. BUILT FORD TOUGH. It's not a RAM....
__________________
Rockwood #8289 WS 2012
F250 6.0 / Husky 16k
With 4 point leveling system
Witch Doctor is online now  
Old 12-07-2015, 01:08 PM   #19
Senior Member
 
Kenny kustom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 3,340
Quote:
Originally Posted by gljurczyk View Post
That is not true at all. I just had my rails installed on a 2007 f-250, because of the frame change they had to move it a little forward of the axle, my 2004 it was installed over the axle. Impossible to do with the change. Tows just fine. A 250 will tow the same as a 350 if you squat add air bags, but I don't even think that will happen. BUILT FORD TOUGH. It's not a RAM....

It wasn't the choice of where to put them. Because of the frame change, you had to put them in a certain position.

Don't think 2500 lbs is going to squat it?


2016 Sabre 36QBOK
2015 Ram 3500 CUMMINS
__________________
2017 Dynamax Isata 4
Kenny kustom is offline  
Old 12-07-2015, 01:08 PM   #20
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: oakdale, ca
Posts: 289
My hitch was installed factory on my 2014 f350 and it is directly over axel. So I would guess that Ford Motor would know the best location of this hitch on there trucks.
As for 250 vs 350 don't sweat it. Before my 350 I used a 2500hd with air bags. And the 2007 2500hd actually showed a higher tow raiting than the 3500hd. This was printed in my owners manual. So don't sweat it.
__________________

__________________
j free is offline  
Closed Thread

Tags
fifth wheel, ford, wheel

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




ForestRiverForums.com is not in any way associated with Forest River, Inc. or its associated RV manufacturing divisions.


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:04 PM.