View Poll Results: What method are you towing your 5W camper with your Short-Bed TV?
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Slider Hitch
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Pivoting type hitch (Reese Revolution/Sidewinder)
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35.59% |
Other (Such as a tow hog?)
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04-09-2014, 07:06 PM
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#21
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Back to Shasta Camping...
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Stony Creek VA
Posts: 52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MillerTime
Don't know what a "tow hog" is, didn't see option for fixed 5th wheel.
B&w companion (non slider) on a 6.5' chevy bed.
MillerTime- Future Sabre Handler!!
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MillerTime,
Sorry I did not include non-slider hitch... I guess I just thought that no one would tow a fifth wheel trailer without some means to ensure that no damage was done to either trailer or TV during up to 90 degree maneuvering into or out of parking locations. My oversight.
Happy Travels,
B n D
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His RV: 2014 REDWOOD 38FL (House)
Her TV: 2013 RAM 1500 CC 5.7 Hemi
Her RV: 2010 VCross 20VFB (Camper)
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04-09-2014, 07:32 PM
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#22
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Oklahoma Proud
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: central OK
Posts: 2,784
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I mainly tow gooseneck equipment trailers. But between them and semis , I could count the number of times I've been close to 90° on my hands (and the trailers would be empty when doing this). And never close with a 5er.
With the rounded fronts and extended pinboxes, most trailers (rv 5th wheels) are able to be towed without a slider. That and the fact I dislike the strain on axles, tires, and suspention on a loaded trailer when turning even close to 70-80°, ill just add a couple more points to my turns!
To each thier own!
MillerTime- Future Sabre Handler!!
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04-09-2014, 07:43 PM
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#23
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Brampton ontario
Posts: 127
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Heartland 88 degree turning radius Curt 20K fifth wheel.
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Mark And Libby
2011 F-350 4X4 Super Crew
2015 Cedar Creek 38FB2
Brampton ON.
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04-09-2014, 07:56 PM
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#24
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Long Island N.Y.
Posts: 419
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Although I now have a long bed my last truck was a shortbed and had a slider in it. I was actually amazed at how sharp of a turn I could make without sliding her back.
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08 Silverado Crew Cab 2500HD Duramax-Allison
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04-09-2014, 08:03 PM
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#25
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 409
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BombDoc
I think the point is, I don't need to worry about putting it anywhere! If you're good with no slider, then good on you. I prefer not having to worry about it, and I don't.
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My point is, I don't worry about putting it anywhere because if it will go with a slider it will go without one if you learn to back the rig instead of taking the easy way out.
If you are good putting un-needed stress on your your trailers frame and axle, then good on you. I prefer not having to worry about breaking an axle or spring or wheel far from home. I've seen far more front fenders messed up on tv's than back windows taken out. Maybe someone should invent a 5er hitch that mounts to the hood so people can see the front of their tv and see to back the trailer too.
I can make it home without a back window but it will be hard to drag the 5er with a broken axle.
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04-09-2014, 08:03 PM
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#26
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Hudson Valley Region of NY
Posts: 256
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Reese Revolution!!!!
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04-09-2014, 08:09 PM
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#27
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Brampton ontario
Posts: 127
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rest and Relax
Heartland 88 degree turning radius Curt 20K fifth wheel.
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Forgot to mention I drive semi for a living.
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2011 F-350 4X4 Super Crew
2015 Cedar Creek 38FB2
Brampton ON.
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04-09-2014, 08:18 PM
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#28
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 806
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Goose neck air ride pin box. I am so confused why every one wants to turn as tight as they can, the stress on your tires and axles is so great that I wouldn't want to do it even if I could, if I can't get it in to a spot without going 90 then I don't need to be in that predicament. My .02 worth
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04-09-2014, 08:22 PM
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#29
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Oklahoma Proud
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: central OK
Posts: 2,784
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crusadernoob
Goose neck air ride pin box. I am so confused why every one wants to turn as tight as they can, the stress on your tires and axles is so great that I wouldn't want to do it even if I could, if I can't get it in to a spot without going 90 then I don't need to be in that predicament. My .02 worth
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Im with you! Why?
MillerTime- Future Sabre Handler!!
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04-09-2014, 08:26 PM
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#30
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Brampton ontario
Posts: 127
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MillerTime
Im with you! Why?
MillerTime- Future Sabre Handler!!
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I don't believe anyone wants to turn 90 degrees but have the ability to do so safely
With or without a slider .
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2011 F-350 4X4 Super Crew
2015 Cedar Creek 38FB2
Brampton ON.
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04-09-2014, 08:33 PM
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#31
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Oklahoma Proud
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: central OK
Posts: 2,784
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rest and Relax
I don't believe anyone wants to turn 90 degrees but have the ability to do so safely
With or without a slider .
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Gotcha!
I guess I just don't want to.
I cringed everytime my spread axle combos scrubbed the tires in a sharp turn. You know, I guess the owner or o/o worries about that stuff more.
Carry on fellas!
MillerTime- Future Sabre Handler!!
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04-09-2014, 08:57 PM
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#32
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: SD
Posts: 441
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B&W non slider with a Ram 6 1/2' box. I've never wished for a slider or revolution.
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04-10-2014, 09:01 AM
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#33
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Camper Less Camping
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: NW
Posts: 3,642
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transamz9
My point is, I don't worry about putting it anywhere because if it will go with a slider it will go without one if you learn to back the rig instead of taking the easy way out.
If you are good putting un-needed stress on your your trailers frame and axle, then good on you. I prefer not having to worry about breaking an axle or spring or wheel far from home. I've seen far more front fenders messed up on tv's than back windows taken out. Maybe someone should invent a 5er hitch that mounts to the hood so people can see the front of their tv and see to back the trailer too.
I can make it home without a back window but it will be hard to drag the 5er with a broken axle.
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"...taking the easy way out"...come on man!?
If your seeing front fenders bashed in on TV's...what type of hitch discussion is the least of your concerns with your fellow camping folks in your area ,)
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04-10-2014, 09:46 AM
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#34
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Michigan
Posts: 1,440
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transamz9
If you can put it in there with a slider then you can do it without one.
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Then you come up to my house and show me how to do it then. You have never been to my home and make assumptions it is possible. I hold a CDL with doubles here in MI and I think I know how to drive even thoe I don't do it for a living
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04-10-2014, 09:54 AM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Iowa
Posts: 34,507
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jevanb
Then you come up to my house and show me how to do it then. You have never been to my home and make assumptions it is possible. I hold a CDL with doubles here in MI and I think I know how to drive even thoe I don't do it for a living
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I almost made comment and yet I refrain..... whats this world coming to?
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Sabre owners united!
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04-10-2014, 10:06 AM
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#36
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 177
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jjsav
Reese Revolution!!!!
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X2
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04-10-2014, 10:21 AM
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#37
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 409
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jevanb
Then you come up to my house and show me how to do it then. You have never been to my home and make assumptions it is possible. I hold a CDL with doubles here in MI and I think I know how to drive even thoe I don't do it for a living
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Holding a CDL with doubles don't hold any credit. Have you seen some of the "professional "drivers that are on the roads now days? It's easier to get a CDL than it is to get a job at Lowes. I have them also. I pull doubles every time I'm towing my RV and I also don't need a slider to put my RV in a tight hole. You can't recover from a 90* back-in so you are going to have to pull up. Without a slider you just might have to do it more than once but it can be done.
I don't have to come to your house to prove you just need more practice.
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2010 Ram 6.7 G56 QC CC Aluminum flat/Leveled (Sold)
2008 Nitro Z9 towed by a 2015 Sanibel 3601 towed by a 2013 Ram 3500 SRW CCSB Cummins
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04-10-2014, 10:38 AM
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#38
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 328
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MillerTime
I dislike the strain on axles, tires, and suspention on a loaded trailer when turning even close to 70-80°, ill just add a couple more points to my turns!
To each thier own!
MillerTime- Future Sabre Handler!!
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I use the B&W OEM hitch, in a 6 1/2 ft bed, no slider. I tested to see just how sharp I could turn without hitting the cab. It was really sharp, but when I
looked at my wheels I was shocked, they were splayed so much I thought I broke something. When I straightened up, the wheels went back vertical; whew. If at all possible I will not ever make that sharp of a turn again, it puts tremendous strain on the wheels and axle.
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04-10-2014, 11:04 AM
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#39
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Phat Phrog Stunt Crew
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Upper Penisula Michigan / Arizona
Posts: 2,767
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Turbs, Your Cheby has a 6.5' box / non-slider hitch and the Sabre makes great turns with this set up? Wildcat Chris told me that this set would work for me. I've get a Husky 16k hitch bought with my Wildcat, but they think I should get a slider for $500 more. I think NOT!
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2014 GMC Sierra Crewcab 2500 Duramax
2014 Wildcat 327ck
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04-10-2014, 11:05 AM
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#40
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Michigan
Posts: 1,440
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transamz9
I don't have to come to your house to prove you just need more practice.
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Like I said come on up and give it a try... you have no idea the layout of the approach, how narrow the street is, how close the 4ft ditches are to the edge of The street, the narrow approach is at the end of my driveway lined with huge oaks and pines, and my ditches next to my drive. Plus how far I have to swing the tail around to miss the trees after the aft axle is in the drive. It seems all your post always correct people and we have no idea what we are doing. If I can back the 29ft trailer, with the spread and the pup I can do something as easy as my personal truck and trailer..
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