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01-06-2017, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Crusadernoob
...My recommendation's would be to buy the truck you want, then figure out how to make it work...
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After reading your comments and others, this is the best recommendation I can go with...:thumbup:
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01-06-2017, 08:51 PM
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Location: El Cajon (Crest)
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New Diesel & old beater
Buy both along with some ramps. Use ramps to park beater in truck bed. No wasted space.
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01-06-2017, 09:00 PM
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Senior Member
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Good one...
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01-06-2017, 09:39 PM
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I have a 9 mile trip to work. If the block heater is plugged in, the engine gets to about 200F after about 5 miles. (at temps less than 10F)
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01-06-2017, 11:21 PM
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Oklahoma Proud
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Location: central OK
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Just an fyi....
If your looking at a new gm diesel, they warm up to 210° very quickly now.
They have changed something to speed up the warm up process. I can start my truck up in cold weather (teens and 20s) and let run for about 2-5 minutes and then drive 3/4 of a mile to the highway and the truck is up to 210° already. (Not plugged in either)
My old 2005 duramax would never hit 210° unless it was really hot in the summer (90°+) and usually towing.
Good luck!
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01-07-2017, 02:56 AM
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Buy what you want, but remember short trips are hell on a diesel. You need to drive like you stole it. You need to run hard and work that turbo. Short trips only will lock your veins up in it. Drive it hard and drive it often. The Ford Mechanic who only works on them said to me I need more miles I have 43000 only and 1800 engine hrs. He told me that I need to take it on the highway at least once a week and to get on it and I wouldn't have problems. I have had 2 6.0 diesels and the last one had 165,000 miles on it when I sold it. That was 2004 and now I have 2007.....
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01-07-2017, 08:57 AM
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It seems I just need to budget some more $$$ for the more mpg AND more time on my short trips to really let the truck warm up.
Can't say thank you enough to all the great responses.
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01-07-2017, 10:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stevejd235
It seems I just need to budget some more $$$ for the more mpg AND more time on my short trips to really let the truck warm up.
Can't say thank you enough to all the great responses.
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Congrats on your new truck and enjoy!! I'm betting that in a few weeks you will forget all about being worried over warm ups and short trips and just drive it like normal
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2012 Wildcat Sterling 32RL - w/level up (best option ever)
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01-07-2017, 12:00 PM
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Location: Minnesota
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NMWildcat
...I'm betting that in a few weeks you will forget all about being worried over warm ups and short trips and just drive it like normal
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I hope your right. Now I just need to continue my searching. Have to wait till this time next year (or so...) to buy the new TV. But now I'm more informed...:thumbup:
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01-07-2017, 12:04 PM
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Location: Between Pickles Gap and Toad Suck, AR
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I just get in mine and go.
I'd say that I don't live in the frozen tundra though.........but today it's 12.....so maybe I do for now. When the pigtail disappears, I start it and go.
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01-07-2017, 02:37 PM
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Location: Eastern NC
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My 2016 F250 was and F350 is my daily driver. It warms up fast. On cold mornings I use the remote start 5 - 10 minutes before I leave. Hit the seat warmer when I get in and both me and the truck is toasty.
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01-07-2017, 02:46 PM
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Location: SE Michigan
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Keep in mind that just because you have heat in the cab, that don't mean the engine, especially the oil is at operating temperature, in fact, it is no indicator because the heater is supplied by bypass hoses so you have heat in the cab right away and the oil as well as the water in the water jacket is still stone cold.
I run a winterfront on my truck in the winter. Keeps the airflow across the radiator to a minimum and lets the block and oil warm up faster.
In lieu of a winterfront (mine snaps over the grill), you could insert a piece of cardboard between the radiator and the grill to block the airflow.
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01-07-2017, 02:52 PM
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Location: Eastern NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SidecarFlip
Keep in mind that just because you have heat in the cab, that don't mean the engine, especially the oil is at operating temperature, in fact, it is no indicator because the heater is supplied by bypass hoses so you have heat in the cab right away and the oil as well as the water in the water jacket is still stone cold.
I run a winterfront on my truck in the winter. Keeps the airflow across the radiator to a minimum and lets the block and oil warm up faster.
In lieu of a winterfront (mine snaps over the grill), you could insert a piece of cardboard between the radiator and the grill to block the airflow.
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The new trucks all warm up quickly ~ they all have an oil temp gauge to give the numeric temp but you may have to make couple clicks. I watch both the oil and trans temps before saying the engine is warm. By the time the dial on the dash is straight up the oil temp is good.
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01-07-2017, 03:16 PM
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I just let mine idle for 10 minutes if I'm running a short distance.
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01-07-2017, 03:20 PM
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Location: NJ
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I assume you already know about the anti-gel diesel additives. I'm in a coldish climate (not nearly like MN), and the anti-gel keeps the fuel running with the temp -0, when I remember to put it in.
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Flemington, NJ
Former: 2007 Cardinal 30W LE
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2008 Ford F-250 Long Bed Diesel
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01-07-2017, 04:11 PM
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I second GOTOYS.
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01-07-2017, 06:44 PM
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Location: iowa
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Live a little south of you. 3 degrees today. Work is 1 mile to work. Driving 2016 Duramax 1 ton. No problems so far.
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01-07-2017, 07:13 PM
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Steve-O, I would think a block heater would really help a diesel, which I don't have. IMO, a gasser would tolerate short drives better than a diesel, but even then give it a good long run every week (or less). I also like the idea of having a beater for winter if possible.
Get a Smart Car and park it in the TH
I drove my CTD Ram for work in Destin 2 years ago. This involved close to if not over a hundred short trips in the coarse of a day; which seriously nasty-ed up the engine. But my engine oil looks like black ink. The MPG was awful since it seemed, although no proof, it was trying to regen constantly. Diesels are not designed for this kind of service.
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01-07-2017, 08:12 PM
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Location: Southern NM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WolfWhistle
I drove my CTD Ram for work in Destin 2 years ago. This involved close to if not over a hundred short trips in the coarse of a day; which seriously nasty-ed up the engine. But my engine oil looks like black ink. The MPG was awful since it seemed, although no proof, it was trying to regen constantly. Diesels are not designed for this kind of service.
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Sounds more like an emissions system problem than a diesel problem . My 2007 w/o DPF or DEF has had 10 years of short trips and does great
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2012 Wildcat Sterling 32RL - w/level up (best option ever)
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01-07-2017, 08:49 PM
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Location: S/E Wisconsin
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If you can live with gas, I would buy gas but in either case, purchase a factory extended warranty near when the TV is out of base warranty and let the factory worry about the TV breaking.
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