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Old 04-24-2013, 09:28 PM   #31
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fancy lock thingamajig for the tailgate

that shouldnt be more than a lb or 2 including the key compared to non locking tailgate. that is if we are talking about factory tailgate latch.
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Better get some more popping.......or whatever your preferred snack of choice is......

So question for everyone. As we make comparisons of ag and farm vehicles hauling hay, grain, implements, etc. and being overweight as compared to hauling a fifth wheel for recreational purposes, is this an apples to apples comparison? Is speed a factor that needs to be taken into consideration in relation to weight, braking, safety to the driver and passengers as well as to everyone else on the road with them? During planting/harvest I dont remember to many of these vehicles passing me at 55 mph or faster fully loaded (and yes i do agree that they haul what we would consider overweight all the time). But the DW does say I have a short term memory
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Old 04-24-2013, 10:13 PM   #33
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Better get some more popping.......or whatever your preferred snack of choice is......

So question for everyone. As we make comparisons of ag and farm vehicles hauling hay, grain, implements, etc. and being overweight as compared to hauling a fifth wheel for recreational purposes, is this an apples to apples comparison? Is speed a factor that needs to be taken into consideration in relation to weight, braking, safety to the driver and passengers as well as to everyone else on the road with them? During planting/harvest I dont remember to many of these vehicles passing me at 55 mph or faster fully loaded (and yes i do agree that they haul what we would consider overweight all the time). But the DW does say I have a short term memory
Or hauling "farm stuff" for thousands of miles!
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Staying within trucks specs vs. exceeding them - from thread hijack

Ok, I felt that the 36QBOK being pulled by a 3/4 ton vehicle had been hijacked (mostly be myself) to the point that it needs its own thread. Hopefully Brandon327 doesn't mind.

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And, for the peanut gallery - yes, we know that you want popcorn.
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Like i mentioned in a previous post, most construction companies, around here, haul overloaded daily. Once in a while a statie will stop them, but usually they are ticketed for not having a cdl. One small company i used to work for still runs a 97 chevy 3500 drw 454, with a 12' flatbed with boxes, both full of tools, and typically a 40' gooseneck with concrete forms, 700lbs of steel stakes, and two 10K lb skid steers. Runs speed limit, never any major truck service needed. That's how i used to tow. After getting my first tt two years ago, i have learned i was terribly unsafe all those years. Yet, i never had a problem? Does that make what i did right or ok? probably not, but for people who have towed popups or the similar, and read weight ratings, to decide they know more than the guys who pull 90% of the time just doesn't make sense to me.

That is all, but i may post in this thread again.
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Old 04-24-2013, 11:05 PM   #36
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Door weights are not put there by Engineers rather by Lawyers!

Lawyers get paid to guarantee the manufacturer that they will not be exposed to the risk of litigation NOT damage!

The numbers on your door are set such that if you overload your truck by an acceptable amount (to be determined by the courts) that the courts would not see the manufacturer as having overstated the safe capabilities of the trucks various parts.

This explains why farmers and 100s if not 1000s of RV'rs have "gotten away" with overloading their trucks.

All things being equal if you do not exceed the door numbers "nothing bad will happen"(safe experienced driver, in a well serviced vehicle, in normal driving conditions)

More popcorn please!
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And what's funny is those with the big trucks that are not overloaded and are supposedly safe will pull the 5er 75mph-80mph on tires rated for 65mph max. with no towing experience. I'll take an experienced driver overloaded (as determined by the wt police here) over the one I stated above.
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Around my part of the world, the government says you cannot exceed any one of front GAWR, rear GAWR or GVWR. They also say that the tow vehicle must have 1HP per 150KG (331lbs) of GVW. I haven't seen that before anywhere. Ford also says the same thing in regards to GAWR and GVWR.

Not sure why anyone would think it doesn't matter if you exceed the stated maximums. You might get away with it in the short term, but it's not going to do the TV much good over time by overstressing brakes, chassis, suspension, etc. Heaven forbid, if you ever do cause an accident and you end up in court, if Judge Judy asks you if you are even one pound over the manufacturers stated maximums, you will be liable and have the book thrown at you. Same goes for your insurance company because they will be looking for anything they can pin on you.
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And what's funny is those with the big trucks that are not overloaded and are supposedly safe will pull the 5er 75mph-80mph on tires rated for 65mph max. with no towing experience. I'll take an experienced driver overloaded (as determined by the wt police here) over the one I stated above.
OldCoot - you know very well that's an unfair generalization. I have a "big truck" and vehemently adhere to 60-65 mph max speed even if the posted speed limit is higher.
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Around my part of the world, the government says you cannot exceed any one of front GAWR, rear GAWR or GVWR. They also say that the tow vehicle must have 1HP per 150KG (331lbs) of GVW. I haven't seen that before anywhere. Ford also says the same thing in regards to GAWR and GVWR.

Not sure why anyone would think it doesn't matter if you exceed the stated maximums. You might get away with it in the short term, but it's not going to do the TV much good over time by overstressing brakes, chassis, suspension, etc. Heaven forbid, if you ever do cause an accident and you end up in court, if Judge Judy asks you if you are even one pound over the manufacturers stated maximums, you will be liable and have the book thrown at you. Same goes for your insurance company because they will be looking for anything they can pin on you.

And without wt tickets, how are they going to prove you were overloaded or that you caused the accident because of being overloaded? Just asking a question.
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