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Old 07-25-2016, 09:07 PM   #11
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Thanks itat. We were just discussing exactly how much "stuff" we'd need to haul to even come close to the 1000+ cargo weight allowance.
Now I know what to look @ ... a door sticker !

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To be conservative, just use the Tracer's GVWR and assume a tongue weight of 12% to 13%. The yellow/white sticker on the truck's driver door should tell you how much weight you can add to the truck in passengers, cargo and trailer tongue. Also pay attention to the axle weight ratings. Here's copy of my door stickers as an example.
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Old 07-26-2016, 06:27 PM   #12
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Bliss... the tongue weight of your trailer will be about 600-700 pounds, if you load 300 pounds of people, 100 pounds of dogs, 100 pounds of tools etc, and 60 pounds of Weight Distributing Hitch you need a truck with at least 1,260 pounds Payload rating on the door sticker.

Every single pound that goes into the truck must be subtracted from the Payload to find out if you have adequate capacity.
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Old 07-26-2016, 06:35 PM   #13
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chevy 1500 . with tow package will do you fine . or even a ford but never a dodge lol
I would never even think about towing a 6000 trailer with anything less than a Chevy or GMC 2500 HD with a 6.2 gas engine and a trailer towing package. You will get about 10 mpg towing that load. A 1500 will pull it, but you won't be a happy camper at the end of the day.

Trust me I have one. FYI when my father had the 1998 Wildwood 5er, He traded in a Dodge because it wouldn't pull the trailer without working hard.
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I would never even think about towing a 6000 trailer with anything less than a Chevy or GMC 2500 HD with a 6.2 gas engine and a trailer towing package. You will get about 10 mpg towing that load. A 1500 will pull it, but you won't be a happy camper at the end of the day.



Trust me I have one. FYI when my father had the 1998 Wildwood 5er, He traded in a Dodge because it wouldn't pull the trailer without working hard.
You may have trouble finding a GM 3/4T with a 6.2. As far as I know, they only put 6.0L gas or 6.6L diesels in 2500s. They do put 6.2s in 1500s.
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ShermanD, it's a 23' TT. The actual loaded weight will likely be under 5000#. A 3/4 ton is overkill for 2 occupants with 2 dogs.
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You may have trouble finding a GM 3/4T with a 6.2. As far as I know, they only put 6.0L gas or 6.6L diesels in 2500s. They do put 6.2s in 1500s.
So I made a mistake but I would still not pull a 6000 pound trailer with anything less than 350 CU IN engine which happens to be the approximate size of a 6.0 chevy engine. the 5.3 is a 305.

and the OP posted this.

GVWR listed on Tracer 205M is 5,924 lbs.

which is what I based my response on. We all know that once loaded with everything but the kitchen sink, it will probably be overweight.

Now if you have the money get yourself an Excalade Hybrid. and pull 15000 lb with ease.. And yes they will, My half bro works for GM in their hybrid division and stops by with one on occasion, four planetary drive electric motors, a motor driving a generator and a bunch of batteries.
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All the Tracer 205Ms I found with a Google search had a yellow sticker weight of under 4000#. If the OP's unit is the same, there's no way they'll get to the 5924# GVWR. I only add 600# to ours when fully loaded for 5 people.
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Old 07-26-2016, 09:38 PM   #19
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Just us & the hounds.
I come from an ultralight backpacking point of view so no extra kitchen sinks. Tracer has more than enough amenities. Our current disagreement is to tv or not tv.
Full time 2 years when his daughter leaves the nest then we'll have $ to invest in an upgraded TV.
TT will be paid off. Ideally new pickup won't be as much as a house note.
We want to do the usual rites of passage; Alaska, Grand Cayon, Yellowstone.

For now just enough truck.


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If you go with a 1/2 ton, be careful. My 2009 Chevy Silverado owners manual listed 99 (yes, I said 99!!) different permutations of the Chevy 1500, based on engine, transmission, bed size, cab size, rear end gearing, tow package, etc. The official towing capacity of these 99 permutations ranged from 4,000 lbs to 12,000 lbs. That's a pretty big spread. You don't want to end up with a 4,000 lb pickup and a 6,000 lb TT.

SO: Not all 1/2 ton's are created equal. KNOW WHAT YOU'RE BUYING.

Also, look at the sticker inside the drivers door frame to see what the payload is. You don't want to exceed the payload. For a used Silverado, the payload will be anything you add after the driver, so wife, basset hounds, and all your "stuff" plus the tongue weight of the TT. (I believe new trucks now include a passenger as part of the pre-payload load). Also add the weight of the weight distribution hitch you SHOULD be purchasing.

I bought my 2009 Silverado in 2012 with 35K miles for about $27K. It was good for 7500 lbs towing.

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