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Old 02-09-2015, 10:00 AM   #51
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Procharger will not give the low end tq that a roots s/c will. The newer TVS s/c is extremely quiet compared to the older model roots s/c also.
Spot on. I've confirmed this on the new TVS designs.

Thanks for the support, and encouragement, friends.
My intention here was to initiate a thoughtful, mature dialog regarding viable options to improve the performance of our gas powered TVs. I made it clear in the beginning that I didn't need to hear preaching about Diesels.
Again - I get it, not interested.
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Old 02-09-2015, 10:26 AM   #52
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We get you don't WANT to hear preaching about diesels, but as Chandler Bing once said in a "Friends" episode--"well, you're gonna!"

What you're proposing to do is neither smart nor cost effecive in the long run for what you're trying to accomplish. By the time you add up the cost of the parts (and labor) for the charger, plus having to "beef up this" and "upgrade that," you're not going to come out ahead of a diesel at all. So for you to type and say that the diesel option isn't cost effective and you're not interested, doesn't hold water. Not to mention the real possibility of having some serious broken down components 2-3 years down the road from running that charger full blast for extended periods of time while towing. We're trying to save you the headache of going "Wow, maybe I should have bought a diesel like those guys on FRF said."

Now if you're into the SC just for the sake of doing it for $i@#s and giggles, then by all means go for it. It would probably be pretty unique at the drag strip. But don't tell us that you want to build a truck for towing but ignore the diesel option. That road doesn't end well, my friend. I won't even get into the resale value of a diesel truck vs your aftermarket supercharger equipped gasser...
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Old 02-09-2015, 10:37 AM   #53
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We get you don't WANT to hear preaching about diesels, but as Chandler Bing once said in a "Friends" episode--"well, you're gonna!"

What you're proposing to do is neither smart nor cost effecive in the long run for what you're trying to accomplish. By the time you add up the cost of the parts (and labor) for the charger, plus having to "beef up this" and "upgrade that," you're not going to come out ahead of a diesel at all. So for you to type and say that the diesel option isn't cost effective and you're not interested, doesn't hold water. Not to mention the real possibility of having some serious broken down components 2-3 years down the road from running that charger full blast for extended periods of time while towing. We're trying to save you the headache of going "Wow, maybe I should have bought a diesel like those guys on FRF said."

Now if you're into the SC just for the sake of doing it for $i@#s and giggles, then by all means go for it. It would probably be pretty unique at the drag strip. But don't tell us that you want to build a truck for towing but ignore the diesel option. That road doesn't end well, my friend. I won't even get into the resale value of a diesel truck vs your aftermarket supercharger equipped gasser...
I concur.
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He will not be anywhere near full throttle with the s/c. Many guys have gone this route before towing enclosed race trailers with none of the issues above.
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The SC can be installed by oneself and some buddies eliminating labor costs. It can also be removed and sold, I would love to find a good used unit. These vehicles need no engine or drive-line strengthening. It seems as though some are seeing a huge honking roots unit busting out through the hood, and some sticky mickys fillin up the wheel wells. These new units have millions of proven, dependable miles on them and the engines they sit on, again right foot causes all the trouble. It will be about $6k parts, add about 100-120 lbs TQ, not significantly decrease fuel economy,(right foot) and run on a cheaper fuel. Last but not least, it will be fun as hell when not towing... Went back and looked at your TV specs, with 410s that would be a hell of a lot of fun, might be able to get some green to pay it back too.

This unit would apply to my TV, all are similar.
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Old 02-09-2015, 08:35 PM   #56
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He will not be anywhere near full throttle with the s/c. Many guys have gone this route before towing enclosed race trailers with none of the issues above.
Ya right. No way this guy would ever crank up that S/C. Please. Every chance he gets to show off. Just not from the getup and go.
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And if he does? It's his rig, from page one it's been mentioned to protect the trans and driveline. So long as he knows the potential consequences who cares if he puts nitrous on it?

He's going to be running modest boost levels, with a tune that will include mapping for the trans (Did you know a 4L80E can bark second harder than the TH400 in my car? Mapping.) so if he drives it as he says he'll be fine.

And if he doesn't, it's his money. Lots of other things to worry about.
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SK Your TV have a S/C? Or are you saying it's his money let him do what he wants? That's cool we were just debating the gasser conversion to supercharging and the get'r done stock Diesel.;o)
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SK Your TV have a S/C? Or are you saying it's his money let him do what he wants? That's cool we were just debating the gasser conversion to supercharging and the get'r done stock Diesel.;o)
Actually my TV has a nice big Holset turbo hanging on the side of a Cummins, and if the money gods smile on me in a few weeks I'll be hanging a whole lot more on there.

But I've hung a few of these things, and they work really, really well. Does it turn it into a diesel? No it doesn't and if you bothered to actually read the OP, not once did he ask about comparing the two or how hammer down he'll be trying to show up diesels.

He likes his truck, he wants more oomph, a properly installed supercharger kit will give him near diesel performance and will include protecting the driveline.

Will it become a diesel? You're the only one debating that.
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Not the only one. Just saying what others have said. Don't get in a huff. i read what he said about not getting in to the Diesel thing and it did. So hang all ya can.
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