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08-28-2010, 11:57 PM
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Join Date: May 2010
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Sway/Buffeting Question
I'm just curious which situation is more likely to affect your control of your TV/TT combination. Passing a tractor trailer, having a tractor trailer pass you or meeting a tractor trailer?
I haven't had much freeway towing time under my belt, mostly 2 lane roads w/ large truck traffic. I haven't noticed much movement when encountering any of the scenarios listed above. Mind you most of my trip to Indy this week will be on the 400, 401, I-75 & I-69.
Just checking the wheelbase chart & I would have to surmise that I have more TV than I need for the TT (133" to 21') that I've got.
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08-29-2010, 12:17 AM
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Lou Amadio
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Southeastern PA
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In my limited experience, the "bow wave" from an overtaking tractor trailer tends to push the camper away from the tractor initially, then it sucks the camper towards the tractor as it passes.
This is NOT sway. The camper tracks true behind the pickup as the TV stays under power. Its strictly aerodynamic forces pushing and pulling on the great big barn sides.
The camper immediately settles down when the tractor trailer finishes its pass.
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08-29-2010, 12:19 AM
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Location: Surprise Arizona
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Most of the time when an 18 wheeler passes they drive slow when passing a trailer. That is most of the time. When this happens you need to relax and keep your eyes ahead and make sure you are in the center of the lane. If you feel comfortable you could give the truck a little wider lane and move to the right a little but not off the road.
Now if you pass a large truck you need to be aware that as soon as your front gets ahead of the truck you will feel a little push of the air coming around the front of the truck. I would not suggest to pass any 18 wheeler unless they are going up a big steep grade and have their 4 ways flashers on. That means they are going really slow and you need to pass. At a slow speed the truck will not have any gusts of air coming around them.
Hope this help you a little. If you have any other questions please ask.
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08-29-2010, 12:29 AM
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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I don't plan on doing a lot of lane hopping. There is a stretch of the 401 in western Ontario that there is a lot of truck traffic in the slow lane & you're more or less stuck in the middle lane whether you want to be there or not. Even when I'm not towing, I try to stay in the RH lane.
Trucks in Ontario are restricted to 105 klicks (65 mph). It makes for what I've seen referred to as "elephant racing" where 1 truck tries to pass another truck.
I've seen this first hand where the 401 is only 2 lanes in each direction. What happens is it takes several klicks for the pass to be completed & numerous vehicles are stuck behing the passing truck.
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08-29-2010, 07:28 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: West Michigan
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I don't have a lot of larger TT towing experience either, but my initial observations (or pit of the stomach feelings!) from the last two outings seem to be that I feel the "push" from an overtaking semi when it is about half-way up on my TT.
I also seem to feel the air disturbance when the semi has passed, and is perhaps a couple of lengths ahead.
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08-30-2010, 06:32 AM
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Cunning Linguist
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Wesley Chapel, FL
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As mentioned above, its bow wave....first out, then in (TT moves to outside of lane, then inside ..towards the object).
Size, shape and difference in speed all affect it & there is no way to prevent it (especially if your on something smaller than a 3-lane road).
Best way to deal with it IMHO, is to be aware of it via your mirrors. After the first couple of times it happens to you, you learn to relax & just compensate for it when you see the large trucks coming up on you from behind.
However, getting "blindsided" by the bow wave that you didn't anticipate is still scary stuff ... so make it a habit to always check those mirrors while hauling
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08-30-2010, 06:38 AM
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When I see a large truck coming up from behind I hold the steering wheel tightly to help compensate for this. It is very important to always be aware of what is behind you.
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08-30-2010, 07:44 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2010
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A truck passing your rig is the worst case and in Ontario as you suggested it is not bad as most trucks can't get any speed but out here on the praries it is not common to be passed by a rig that is traveling at 75 when I am doing 60 as I tend to keep my speed down when traveling with my BIL as he dosen't like driving over 50 with a trailer (heck he dosen't like driving over 50 at the best of times). Also there are also some real dick semi drivers that seem to get kicks from driving right up on the rear of an RV to try and shake them then pull out and pass I guess they get bored on the praries. Our old setup was quite bad for semi induced push but it is a non issue now that I have the Blue Ox dialed in. And I did find semi drivers in Ontario quite courteous but alot up north didn't seem to be running restricted engine computers, could be most were from out of province too.
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08-30-2010, 12:08 PM
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Cunning Linguist
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Wesley Chapel, FL
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I don't know this as fact, but there seems to be something to how quickly the large vehicle overtakes you.
I see some of the more "courteous truckers" make an effort to give you a second to see them in your mirrors, then pass gradually, while hugging the outside edge of their lane......which seems to make a huge difference on how much I get shoved around (at least when it's an RV thats travelling in the right hand lane).
Not sure if it's a "technique", or just something they pick up from experience.
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08-30-2010, 12:36 PM
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