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Old 08-16-2012, 10:03 AM   #1
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Wink Sway Controls

-Trailer:2012 F/R Sierra 323FK, aprox 9k lbs
-Truck:1999 F350 DUALLY 7.3 Diesel

-I have a w/d hitch setup and the rig pulls pretty well but I think it could be less sway with the addition of 2 sway controls.
-I have bought 2 sway controls and will be installing BEFORE our upcoming FIRST camping trip.
-My question is on the adjustment....instructions say to turn 1/4 turn clockwise I think to tighten and test and repete as nessessary.
-Can I go too tight? why/what is the larger flat steel plate included for? it looks like the plate with the ball attached should be mounted directly on the side of the a-frame by itself....thats how the shop installed the one on my car transport trailer....

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Old 08-16-2012, 10:30 AM   #2
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First thing is find why you have sway then correct that,the friction sway bars are for help in those (Surprise) situations,not (Full Time). Youroo!!
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Old 08-16-2012, 10:41 AM   #3
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It sounds like I have the same type set up as you do. I had 1 sway control and with my new TT I decided to add a second. The flat bar that comes with the kit is to have welded to your hitch head to mount the sway control ball on. My hitch head had two places for the sway control ball, one right and one left, so I didn't use the flat bar that was included.

You can over torque the sway bar. It is hard to get a straight answer on how tight to put it on. From what I have read, you tighten it up as much as you can, then back it off 1/4 to 1/2 turn. Sometimes that seem to tight for my set up. I have been wondering if by having two sway bars now if I can or need to leave them a little less tight.

Hope this helps.
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Old 08-16-2012, 11:54 AM   #4
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I run a Husky centerline WD active sway control hitch. Basically an Equal-i-zer style hitch with a few new tricks.

No sway at all.

Does your trialer sway for no reason or when you're passed by a rig or something similar.

A properly weighted and set up trailer hitch truck combo should not sway at all.

If it does, you might have the hitch hieght incorrect or the trailer loaded wrong.

An "Anti sway" device shouldn't be needed on a regular basis. Just on the occasional twitch cause by an outside force (ie; bad side winds, semi's, etc).

Personally, rather than "double up", I'd go to a nice anti sway style hitch like the Equil-i-zer, hensley arrow, pro pride or even my hootchie gootchie Husky centerline....
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Old 08-16-2012, 12:37 PM   #5
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I'm still learning about this BIG TT, I am a professional tractor-trailer driver, so not new to towing...just got to get everything dialed in together....I might not have enough air in the rear tires of my truck to boot...the hitch level to trailer was set up by a 18 year seasoned pro, so I'm not really questioning that part, lots of folks say I really don't need the anti-sway bars with my Dually.
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You've got about 10,000 pounds spread over about 35' somewhat balanced on two axles in the middle being pulled by a tiny 2 & 5/16" ball on the far end of it. I don't care what you pull it with, there will be sway. If you get caught between 2 big rigs, your dually won't sway but the assend of that trailer sure will. I've never used sway control before but I found out the hard way, sway happens. Most sway controls help to minimize it after it gets started. It's best to not let it get started. That's why I just ordered Reese dual cam to go with my Reese WD setup.

Good luck with your friction based control I hope it works for you. I was fortunate enough to already have the Reese setup and the DC system was only $185 more. If not, I was going to try the route you are going.
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You've got about 10,000 pounds spread over about 35' somewhat balanced on two axles in the middle being pulled by a tiny 2 & 5/16" ball on the far end of it. I don't care what you pull it with, there will be sway. If you get caught between 2 big rigs, your dually won't sway but the assend of that trailer sure will. I've never used sway control before but I found out the hard way, sway happens. Most sway controls help to minimize it after it gets started. It's best to not let it get started. That's why I just ordered Reese dual cam to go with my Reese WD setup.

Good luck with your friction based control I hope it works for you. I was fortunate enough to already have the Reese setup and the DC system was only $185 more. If not, I was going to try the route you are going.
Not trying to be argumentative, but I respectfully disagree.

Case in point, this trip:



with this rig:





with a Husky centerline active hitch and no sway.

By that I mean none. Nada. Zip. Zilch.

All 800-odd KMs of it.

Passed and passing tractor trailers, highways, side roads, construction, head winds, tail winds, side winds, up and down twisting mountain passes, avoidance maneuvers...... you name it, we saw it.

The truck never moved. The trailer never moved more than a small twitch to catch up to the truck on an avoidance. I watch the mirrors very closely when pulling. I want to know if the trailer is doing something before the rig tells me it is.

If you're set up right it will not "sway", which I define as an oscillation.

Definitely not enough so that you're knuckles go white or you actually have to look back to see what the trailer is doing.

Now, will a semi be able to "suck" you in closer?

Yup, but that's not "sway". The whole rig moves together as a result of the tunneling air effect between the two of you. Airspeed, pressure differential and all that jazz. Again, if your rig is set up properly that is.

Same thing happens when two large ships get close together going the same direction, the tend to pull/push towards each other. Found that out more than once on a RAS....

The other possibility is my rig is that one in a million jobbie that isn't effected the same by sway forces as those bound by the laws of physics, but I doubt it...

Just my .02

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I think awjoker was saying that without any sway control (active like the Husky centerline active hitch or a passive friction style) you will have sway no matter what your TV is. At least that's what I got out of it.
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Great white did you mean 8000kms and not 800.
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Great White,great Pics. of your Truck & Trailer,what about a Pic. of your Hitch! Youroo!!
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