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Old 02-20-2015, 03:15 PM   #21
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It is not the CAN it be done (has been done by many) or if the warranty will be voided (any mod done to structure will void a warranty) but will it be safe. Not so much safe for the tower but for the towee. How does this differ? If YOU are towing something, you are the tower. If you are struck or injured by something that has been broken apart, cobbled together, engineered to a pretty safe structure but not a factory item then you are towee.
Towee usually sues the Tower. Towee usually walks away from the situation (if possible) with everything the Tower has. Tower can possibly live a few years, at state expense, in his/her own little 5x8 room with a bunk mate.
Yes, I know, "I'll be safe, UPS/FEDEX double tow all the time", yadda yadda blah. Do you really NEED all that crap? Are you out to "Bring more than the other guy"? Will you really use the boat, golf cart, extra mother-in-law suite enough to add the expense of 2-4 more tires on the ground, extra fuel to drag it all around, maintenance for the extra axles and bearings, having to use "pull through only" because you ain't gonna back that sucker up. Where are you going to store it when not using it? Can every park you go to handle it? The list is way too long and I am getting tired of watching people re-engineer and try to do things really at the peril of others on the road. Just stay away from me or at least have some kind of warning system so others know to avoid the traffic jam you cause.
Now if this doesn't cause a major temper flare, I have failed in the amusement column. Ha!
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Old 02-20-2015, 03:17 PM   #22
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It is not the CAN it be done (has been done by many) or if the warranty will be voided (any mod done to structure will void a warranty) but will it be safe. Not so much safe for the tower but for the towee. How does this differ? If YOU are towing something, you are the tower. If you are struck or injured by something that has been broken apart, cobbled together, engineered to a pretty safe structure but not a factory item then you are towee.
Towee usually sues the Tower. Towee usually walks away from the situation (if possible) with everything the Tower has. Tower can possibly live a few years, at state expense, in his/her own little 5x8 room with a bunk mate.
Yes, I know, "I'll be safe, UPS/FEDEX double tow all the time", yadda yadda blah. Do you really NEED all that crap? Are you out to "Bring more than the other guy"? Will you really use the boat, golf cart, extra mother-in-law suite enough to add the expense of 2-4 more tires on the ground, extra fuel to drag it all around, maintenance for the extra axles and bearings, having to use "pull through only" because you ain't gonna back that sucker up. Where are you going to store it when not using it? Can every park you go to handle it? The list is way too long and I am getting tired of watching people re-engineer and try to do things really at the peril of others on the road. Just stay away from me or at least have some kind of warning system so others know to avoid the traffic jam you cause.
Now if this doesn't cause a major temper flare, I have failed in the amusement column. Ha!
I think in op ' s post on another thread he said it would be "short trips" I'd say if short trips tow it with another vehicle.

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Old 02-24-2015, 05:05 PM   #24
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Turbs,
The pictures that you posted. Was there a towed trailer behind that 5th wheel or evidence of a rear hitch?
You stated that towing double adds weight to the pin box. That is not necessarily true. As hitching up the 2nd trailer will remove vertical weight off of the pin box, you are adding horizontal weight from the added tow weight of the 2nd trailer.
Tow lengths don't matter as every state offers overlength permits at a reasonable price. Such as TX is $120 for a 30 day permit up to 110ft.
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The pictures that you posted. Was there a towed trailer behind that 5th wheel or evidence of a rear hitch?
You stated that towing double adds weight to the pin box. That is not necessarily true. As hitching up the 2nd trailer will remove vertical weight off of the pin box, you are adding horizontal weight from the added tow weight of the 2nd trailer.
Tow lengths don't matter as every state offers overlength permits at a reasonable price. Such as TX is $120 for a 30 day permit up to 110ft.
What i meant if it wasn't clear was there's more "pulling" stress on the pin box .
The last pic was from pulling a trailer "I'm told"
These pin box's are designed and rated ONLY to pull the camper.

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So if the pin box is the concern then that is a simple fix. replace the box with a higher rating.

One thing on my old Cyclone. As you transferred the weight to the pickup, you could watch the entire pin box assembly move about 1/2". Never sure if that was normal but it seemed to be alot of flex in that chassis. I never towed doubles with it as well.
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So if the pin box is the concern then that is a simple fix. replace the box with a higher rating.

One thing on my old Cyclone. As you transferred the weight to the pickup, you could watch the entire pin box assembly move about 1/2". Never sure if that was normal but it seemed to be alot of flex in that chassis. I never towed doubles with it as well.
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So if the pin box is the concern then that is a simple fix. replace the box with a higher rating...
Easy to replace the pinbox, that's very true, but you will find it a little more difficult to increase the structural integrity of the super structure of the trailer frame.

Of course you can do what you please as it is your trailer, but you ask for suggestions/advice and don't want to take it, but, you are playing with fire my friend.
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I did not ask for suggestion but this has always been a curious subject for me. As I see it often at teh ATV parks. Usually a lighter made 5th pulling doubles but to they are a lighter trailer as well.

But I am surprised a RV manufacturer has not built a purpose made 5th wheel to tow double trailers. Because for somebody like myself the doubles suit me more then a Toy hauler. As nobody builds a Toy Hauler that can fit my RZR 1k. Due to the height is the issue. I need a regular 5th wheel more then I need a Toy Hauler. The other I do not like the floor plans of 95% of the toy haulers as well.
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